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ReadySteadyJedi said:
You on about the tom cruise one or the scientology one? Thought the tom cruise one was only alright, but the scientology one was fuckin brilliant.

Wonder how much people actually know about scientology outside of "loads of famous people are into it and it's nuts". Don't think i've ever heard any of the actual beliefs.

read these and marvel

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/9363363/inside_scientology?rnd=1144671944500&has-player=false

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,1217884,00.html
 
Hector Grey said:
there's nothing in scientology that's any weirder than the tenants of any other major religion. anyone for virgin birth?

gah!
bollix-ness is not relative.
just becuase there's a long tradition of people following a socio-politcal doctrine which claims things that are plainly not true - it doesn't mean that that the imagination of a failed sci-fi writer should be considered as a possible truth that people can live by.

remember kids - scientology (and all pseudo- & organised- religion) is bollix, and only you can help stamp it out before it's too late!
 
from the guardian article:
For a second or so the needle proceeds smoothly along the dial. I watch its progress while clutching two can-shaped metal devices, wired to the small machine housing the dial. Suddenly, the needle jerks violently.

'What was that?' asks Janet Laveau, head of the UK Office of Special Affairs, the Church of Scientology's PR machine. I'm disturbed and temporarily impressed - the needle jumped just as I was thinking of a friend who is seriously depressed. How could the machine 'know' what I was thinking?

Few people outside the Church of Scientology, which this year celebrates its 50th anniversary, have seen the E-meter. And fewer still have road-tested it at the Scientology Celebrity Centre in Bayswater, London, a stucco-fronted building where the church's many celebrity followers study the religion when in the capital.

The device is said to measure the mental state of a person, allowing the church's teachers - known as auditors - to pinpoint areas of concern.

Oh what utter claptrap. I had a go on one of those E-Meters in some Scientology centre in Birmingham, and the needle moves when you squeeze the handles

"oooh how could the machine know what I was thinking?"
Is there any hope for The Human Race at all?
 
From the rolling stone article:


Tom Cruise, who is near the top of Scientology's Bridge, is at a level known as OT VII. OTs ("Operating Thetan") are Scientology's elite -- enlightened beings who are said to have total "control" over themselves and their environment. OTs can allegedly move inanimate objects with their minds, leave their bodies at will and telepathically communicate with, and control the behavior of, both animals and human beings. At the highest levels, they are allegedly liberated from the physical universe, to the point where they can psychically control what Scientologists call MEST: Matter, Energy, Space and Time.

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They assert that 75 million years ago, an evil galactic warlord named Xenu controlled seventy-six planets in this corner of the galaxy, each of which was severely overpopulated. To solve this problem, Xenu rounded up 13.5 trillion beings and then flew them to Earth, where they were dumped into volcanoes around the globe and vaporized with bombs. This scattered their radioactive souls, or thetans, until they were caught in electronic traps set up around the atmosphere and "implanted" with a number of false ideas -- including the concepts of God, Christ and organized religion. Scientologists later learn that many of these entities attached themselves to human beings, where they remain to this day, creating not just the root of all of our emotional and physical problems but the root of all problems of the modern world.

I'd rather invest my life in a religion formed by Uri Geller called Allahquandology over this.

That said, i do find the notion of Tom Cruise having the ability to move inanimate objects and control animals with his mind difficult to totally disbelieve.
 
oh shit said:
do you think it's weird that he did that or that someone thought it was newsworthy?

both.

dont you think?

the media circus that surrounds that crazy baboon is funny in its own right, not to mention the (true and insano) stories that are written about him!
 
i dont think it's weird that a rich guy who can fly flies a vintage plane. this rich guy in the next street bought a vintage car one time. i think mass media is absurd and the star system in particular, but in comparison to past eccentrics cruise isn't all that. if anything he's a welcome change from the homogenised, bland crop of non-entities we usually get to read about.
 
oh shit said:
i dont think it's weird that a rich guy who can fly flies a vintage plane. this rich guy in the next street bought a vintage car one time. i think mass media is absurd and the star system in particular, but in comparison to past eccentrics cruise isn't all that. if anything he's a welcome change from the homogenised, bland crop of non-entities we usually get to read about.

of course. however, if i was HEAVILY pregnant, that last thing i'd want is the father of my baby to take off (in search of aliens, god knows what ;) ) in a vintage plane. it's a little risky, and if he crashed, the baby would have no father, etc etc.
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but yes he could die crossing the road, banning scientology episodes of south park, bouncing on oprah's couch, banal things like that too, i guess. :)
 
Cruise is a bit of a bore really, except when he goes on american tv and drops a few bombshells.

classic cruise cuote:

"all forms of mental illness can be cured by vitamins and exercise."
 
Lefty Frizzell said:
Cruise is a bit of a bore really, except when he goes on american tv and drops a few bombshells.

classic cruise cuote:

"all forms of mental illness can be cured by vitamins and exercise."

Cruise has spotted a mental...

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