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never heard the old stuff, but anything i've heard by 18 visions is fucking pathetic. i mean beyond funny.xsteox said:i'm dont like using the term sell-out, but christ on a bike, eighteen visions, what happened there? heard some of their old stuff, not great by any means. like watered down less abrasive version of coalesce, now listen to 'em, good charlotte with better distorsion pedals.
reign in blood?! shite?!GARYXKNIFEDX said:Y'see that stuff is all shite to begin with.
GARYXKNIFEDX said:Boring. ok live though.
Alan Remorse said:i know its probably considered blasphemy by both slayer and hardcore fans alike, but i probably listen to "undisputed attitude" almost as much as i do Reign In Blood.
contraversial?
gary, compared to tommy you're only a young fellaGARYXKNIFEDX said:Tommy,I'm one of the od guys round here too.Insanely good record.
GARYXKNIFEDX said:I was refering to Eighteen Visions earlier. I had a Botch 7" that was ok but the lp's did nothing for me. Saw them on the last tour? with Murder City Devils in chicago. I went to see Murder City Devils.
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niallmc said:gary, compared to tommy you're only a young fella
xsteox said:murder city devils were deadly when they supported at the drive-in here. what bands did the join after, besides big business?
try meshuggah insteadxsteox said:this is probably a greater blasphomy. slayer bore me. its been done so much by so many bands, become apathetic to that style/sound. just hope at the gates arn't ruined in the same way.
Among the band's most recognizable qualities are lead guitar player Fredrik Thordendal's smooth, clean, Allan Holdsworth-esque type solos, the churning, dissonant rhythm guitars and the polymetric drum beats. In a typical Meshuggah song drummer Tomas Haake plays two separate rhythms: a standard 4/4 beat with his hands, and a completely different metrical subdivision with his feet. The guitars mostly follow the bass drum work, creating an awkwardly pulsating rhythmic pattern to work as the basis of the song.
To take an example, the main riff of the song New Millennium Cyanide Christ from their 1998 album Chaosphere follows the aforementioned blueprint. Haake beats a rather slow 4/4 rhythm with his hands, while the bass drums and guitars play a repetitive 23/16 rhythm pattern on top of it. As the subdivided pattern is repeated, the pattern's accents shift to different beats on each repetition. After repeating the 23/16 pattern five times, a shorter 13/16 pattern is played once. These patterns sum up to 128 16th notes, which equals exactly 8 measures in 4/4 meter. While obviously not abandoning live drums, a unique decision was made to use programmed drum patterns using the "Drumkit From Hell" sample library on the latest album Catch Thirty-Three to provide not just a more precise and mechanized drumscape to work with, but made drum beat creativity a more collaborative effort amongst all of the band members and cemented the album as one of the bands most complex works to date.
xsteox said:
Alan Remorse said:meshuggah are good but at times remind me a little too much of fear factory (which is a very, very bad thing)
tom. said:
i just love the abraseiveness of their stuff, not an over-reliance on slayer/at the gates riffs, and open-chord beatdowns for heavyness. sean ingrams vocals are superior to 99% all other shouty vocalists i.m.oGARYXKNIFEDX said:they kinda bore me too,I thought the Zep covers record was entertaing though.
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