World Cup 2010 draw (1 Viewer)

[Unicron]

England are seeded.

Pot 1 (seeds)
South Africa, Germany, Brazil, Italy, Spain, England, Argentina, Holland.

Pot 2 (Europe)
France, Portugal, Slovenia, Switzerland, Greece, Serbia, Denmark, Slovakia.

Pot 3 (Africa and South America)
Ivory Coast, Ghana, Cameroon, Nigeria, Algeria, Paraguay, Chile, Uruguay.

Pot 4 (Asia, Oceania and North/Central America)
Japan, South Korea, North Korea, Australia, New Zealand, USA, Mexico, Honduras.

Toughest potential group: Spain/Brazil (too close to call but if I were to be parochial I'd say Spain), France, Ivory Coast, USA

Weakest potential group: South Africa, Switzerland, Algeria, New Zealand.

 

[Moods For Mallards]

I'm still going to be mad excited when the tournament comes around, but I'll still be bitter for the draw.

Don't think they broke up the pots on a regional basis before.

 

[Moods For Mallards]

Weakest potential group: South Africa, Switzerland, Algeria, New Zealand.

South Africa, Slovakia, Nigeria, North Korea

 

[Unicron]

I'm still going to be mad excited when the tournament comes around, but I'll still be bitter for the draw.

Don't think they broke up the pots on a regional basis before.

I think they did in 2006 as well. Personally I feel it'd be better if they seeded all 4 pots and had a rule that no more than 2 teams from any confederation could be drawn together. It'd complicate matters a little but would lead to more balanced groups.

Of course, seeing as they've already made their draw decision I don't think they should change it now, that would be unfair obviously.

 

[Froog]

always nice to have a group of death or two tho. also, it is usual for the host nation to be seeded?

 

[Moods For Mallards]

also, it is usual for the host nation to be seeded?

Always. Can lead to some crappy groups, like the Japan, Belgium, Russia, Tunisia group in 2002.

 

[ratmonkey]

I think they did in 2006 as well. Personally I feel it'd be better if they seeded all 4 pots and had a rule that no more than 2 teams from any confederation could be drawn together. It'd complicate matters a little but would lead to more balanced groups.

Of course, seeing as they've already made their draw decision I don't think they should change it now, that would be unfair obviously.

Didn't they do something like that before? I seem to recall back in 1990 some teams were kept apart on a geographical basis, but ourselves and England weren't, for some reason..

 

[Unicron]

it is usual for the host nation to be seeded?

Yes

 

[Cormcolash]

I've said it a million times already, this seeding bullshit is one of the things that is ruining football.

 

[Hector Grey]

how did argentina make it as a seeded team???

 

[Cormcolash]

how did argentina make it as a seeded team???

Because FIFA are fucking wankers.
You know, the same answer to most footballing questions these days.

 

[ratmonkey]

Because they're based on these silly rankings that have the USA 11th in the world.

 

[Hector Grey]

Because they're based on these silly rankings that have the USA 11th in the world.

and yet they're in the last pot??

 

[Unicron]

and yet they're in the last pot??

Pot 1 is the only one that's seeded based on the rankings though. The other 3 pots are arranged according to confederation.

 

[Moods For Mallards]

Unicron is the only one who has a real handle on this stuff. Cop on everyone.

 

[I Bleed Black]

One more reason to love Charlize Theron

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/02122009/58/world-cup-theron-draws-ireland-world-cup.html

 

[washingcattle]

One more reason to love Charlize Theron

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/02122009/58/world-cup-theron-draws-ireland-world-cup.html

Brilliant. Would have loved to see Blatter and Platini turn bright red and vomit themselves to death. well just in general like.

Seeding is ruining football simply because it weakens the stronger nations and causes a lull early on in the tourniment. By the time Italy, Spain, Brazil, Germany and England have gotten through the first round (which apart from Italy they always do easily) they've basically played two warm up kick arounds and one actual match then in the second they play a team which has probably played out of it's skin to get there and in doing so are off and running early and in mid stride before the match. This is the round i love. When Mexico nearly beat Argentina last time out it was fucking glorious football.

The seeding is so pointless when you actually think about it. even if Brazil and Spain were drawn in the same group you'd still expect them to qualify. and the chances of three big teams being drawn in the same group is ridiculously remote to begin with.

 

[IFF]

One more reason to love Charlize Theron

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/02122009/58/world-cup-theron-draws-ireland-world-cup.html

as if we needed an another

 

[Jerry Twig]

What a load of cock.

 

[Moods For Mallards]

For as long as I can remember, the World Cup groups have been seeded. I don't see any reason not to seed them. It would be a complete break with convention, serving no particular purpose.
Keep the big teams apart and make the pretenders earn their places in the latter stages by beating powerful countries, rather than progressing by default with wins against other unproven teams. The World Cup is in some way supposed to find the best team around and you don't do that by having a bunch of good teams knock each other out early on.
But we're all against seeding as a symbol of corruption now, I see.