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[pete]

the new ones still use old charging standards?

as far as I know, yep

 

[ann post]

i see now that the leaf has a starting price of €23k, which is about €10k lower than i expected. am tempted, i am giving serious consideration to moving to a BEV and don't want one of the quasi SUV ones you see around.

I never got one in the end, at the time it was going to be a second car for a second driver in the house but that need isn't there any more. I'm still tracking prices of them though because there is a tipping point for me where it might potentially make sense to run two cars for a while.
If you are going to buy a new car, just give me 4k instead, because that's what you'll lose in depreciation over buying a 3 year old.

 

[magicbastarder]

How much do BEVs lose over three years in value?

 

[ann post]

How much do BEVs lose over three years in value?

I don't know exactly, I just know that the fastest price depreciation in a cars life is the five seconds where you drive a brand new one off the forecourt, so usually the advice is to let someone else pay for that.

 

[magicbastarder]

yeah, the question is how much they've lost after three years; the calculation i'd make would be if i had a benchmark (say) that i'd keep a car till it's ten years old.

buying new at 30k means (without factoring in resale value) you're paying 3k per year in purchase cost averaged over the ten years.
but if you buy a three year old car, it'd need to be €21k or less to hit that same averaged cost, selling when it gets to ten years old. i don't know if they lose less or more than that.
the 'fastest depreciation is on a brand new car' doesn't factor unless you are factoring in the possibility of having to sell a car that's a week or a month old.

 

[ann post]

buy a 3 year old and keep it 7 years if your line in the sand is a ten year old car. Save about 500 a year. buy cans.


and give me 4k.

 

[ann post]

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[magicbastarder]

this doesn;t look good for the cybertruck. hard to see much detail, but if that had been a high speed impact, you'd expect a car weighing over three tons would have done much more damage. maybe the occupants weren't wearing seatbelts, but if they are it raises the possibility it was the fire that killed them.

Three Dead, One Injured In Early Morning Fiery Cybertruck Crash In Piedmont

A Tesla Cybertruck jumped a curb, hit a cement wall, and burst into flames just after 3 am Wednesday morning in Piedmont, and three of the four occupants in the car died at the scene.

sfist.com

 

[pete]

this doesn;t look good for the cybertruck. hard to see much detail, but if that had been a high speed impact, you'd expect a car weighing over three tons would have done much more damage. maybe the occupants weren't wearing seatbelts, but if they are it raises the possibility it was the fire that killed them.

Three Dead, One Injured In Early Morning Fiery Cybertruck Crash In Piedmont

A Tesla Cybertruck jumped a curb, hit a cement wall, and burst into flames just after 3 am Wednesday morning in Piedmont, and three of the four occupants in the car died at the scene.

sfist.com

looks like it jammed in sideways rather than crashed head on? or at least didn't impact where it eventually got stuck.

 

[ann post]

I have now succesfully fixed it myself.

NCT - passed mechanically 100%, two welds and it's golden. Other than one job i didn't have tooling for it's all been self maintained this year. Smug mrs Doyle face.

 

[ann post]

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[magicbastarder]

the classic trope of you drop your car off for a service, and the mechanic thinks 'i'm not going to pass up the opportunity to drive one of the most iconic cars of the 80s' and stuffs it royally into a lamppost, while your mate films it from behind.

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[ann post]

It's people's fault for being outdoors without a car again

Hi-viz vests must be made compulsory | Anglo Celt

Cavan County Council is to initiate a change in road safety measures by calling for the compulsory wearing of hi-visibility clothing while walking and cycling in public places.

www.anglocelt.ie

 

[Cornu Ammonis]

It's people's fault for being outdoors without a car again

Hi-viz vests must be made compulsory | Anglo Celt

Cavan County Council is to initiate a change in road safety measures by calling for the compulsory wearing of hi-visibility clothing while walking and cycling in public places.

www.anglocelt.ie

20 km/h limiter on all motorised vehicles.

 

[ann post]

New speed limits in this week in the sticks.

I was just browsing the zuckerberg community group page for the locale about it and there's a load of lads going fucking apeshite because it's not been covered on the news. Apparently it's beeing 'snuck in'.

meanwhile, in the media:

 

[ann post]

So yesterday i had to drive galway - Donegal and as we are in one of the new L speed limit zones the first few km was at the new speed limit.
When i got off those roads i decided fuck it, i'm gonna use the new limits the whole way there even though they are not in yet because gmaps hadn't updated with them yet so spaznav was gonna be useable as a comparison tool for a few days.

i.e. it calculates i'll get there in 3hrs 33 or so on the old speed limits.

I did not lose one single minute on the trip. not one. That's 80kmh in a fair few stretches, about 10ish towns on 30kph and in transitions back to the main roads on town edges i kept under the incoming limits.

TLDR the new speed limits didn't cost a person one single minute between galway and donegal.

Also driving at 80 is sooo much smoother in and out of roundabouts than dropping from 100.

thanks for coming to my ted talk

 

[magicbastarder]

i reckon that if google collect enough info from phone location, it'd be reasonably straightforward to model the effect of lower limits on driving times, with the data, prior to the new limits coming in. like the above, or with dropping urban limits from 50 to 30, say.
you could probably also do a crude enough job with strava or some other mapping tool that gives you a graph of your speed.

 

[ann post]

Totally.
I forgot to turn on my obdII till too late to make a fuel comparison.

My main takeaway from yesterday is that all told, with all the data google have to make the time estimate, the new limits are quite in tune with what really happens.

Oh also 60 in places that were 80 earlier this week is so chill - barely changing gear, and not really having to significantly slow/accelerate around corners.

 

[magicbastarder]

this is what i was thinking - originally more in relation to dropping from 50 to 30 in urban areas.



the jagged line is obviously the progress of the car, in this theoretical example moving in stop/starty or slow moving urban traffic. the area under the jagged line will equate to distance travelled. so to model the drop from 50 to 30, you'd just need to take the area that's hatched (between the two speeds) and add it on at the end.

 

[ann post]

The whingery on fb groups and reddit is all nearly the same so far.

They are not men of science.