Marriage Equality Referendum (2 Viewers)

[7 - No tomorrow]

Everywhere is a corrupt shithole.

I won't argue that.
It's nice to wear shorts though.

 

[Unicron]

You should leave because it's a corrupt shithole with chronically crap weather

You moved to a place that requires you to sometimes wear shorts. ie Hell

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

You moved to a place that requires you to sometimes wear shorts. ie Hell

I love wearing shorts. I'd wear them every day if the weather and my finances allowed for it.
Shorts rule.
Doesn't hurt that I have gorgeous legs obv.

 

[therealjohnny]

most recent red C poll says 72 % yes, 20 no, 8 undecided

Red C joke

 

[nooleen]

hm

 

[Unicron]

Doesn't hurt that I have gorgeous legs obv.

All that biking wha?

 

[therealjohnny]

tough crowd

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

tough crowd

That's the most offensive thing I've seen on the internet today

 

[therealjohnny]

Would it help if I spelled it "center" for you?

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

No

 

[therealjohnny]

ah

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

Una Mulally is gay? Breda O'Brien has a son called Ben Conroy? I'm learning all sorts of things thanks to this referendum.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

Una Mulally is gay

Dates women and everything

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

Dates women and everything

Outrageous.

Nah, just came as a surprise to me. From now on maybe I'll work on the basis that everyone is gay till I learn otherwise.

 

[Scientician 0.8]

It's "steps out with her gal pal" in the modern mode.

 

[nooleen]

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[тхеодоре кацзынски]

A live-in gal pal? Sounds like a pet, must get one.

 

[Mormon Nailer]

What should people really be debating @Mormon Nailer?

I'd like to hear a yes person who isn't terrified of the phrase "redefining marriage" say "yes, it is being redefined and I think that is good because.." and argue from there. I dislike (and distrust) "don't worry it's no big deal" type of arguments on any subject.

I like to hear a no person, instead of the creepy dog whistling that goes on now say clearly "I'm voting no because I think it will lead to x, and I don't like x". All I hear is vague "won't someone think of the children" pearl clutching.

I'd like to hear a yes person tell me why we're back at this subject a couple of years after the civil partnership debate. I remember lots of "nooooo we're not looking to change marriage, civil partnership is grand" comments at the time.

I'd like a no person to tell me exactly what the consequences of this referendum will be that are sooooooo frightening to contemplate that aren't possible now anyway.

I don't know is it because the no side are arguing an unwinnable case, or that the people we see are the last few head case holdouts, or that no-one wants to be branded a homophobe - but the poverty of thought on display....

Regardless of how much of a slam dunk people think the referendum is, this has been a pretty unenlightening debate.

 

[nooleen]

look harder

 

[Lili Marlene]

Yes there probably is a bit of an attempt at a softly, softly approach on the yes side, but I think it depends where you are looking. The Lawyers for equality gang, for example, have a fairly detailed document about it that goes into the nature of marriage and right to marry and stuff:

https://www.yesequality.ie/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Lawyers-for-Yes.pdf


Also, at the same time. they are trying to win by popular vote here. I don't this is the exact moment to make your stand against Irish anti-intellectual tendencies.