London riots (1 Viewer)

[ann post]

Tired and old as i am I should point out that this thread is not the kind of thing that I was speaking about, moreso the "bunch of scumbags out on the rob" type of post.

my facebook has been full of that. its not pretty.

 

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[ratmonkey]

What kind of self respecting rioter pays for a baseball bat ?

An organised but lazy one who wants to be sure he'll have one but couldn't be arsed getting to the baseball bat shop on time to secure it.

 

[rettucs]

theres no smoke without fire lads

 

[Anarcho Munk]

my facebook has been full of that. its not pretty.

It has been making me very angry and sadly depressed today. Can people not put themselves in other peoples shoes for one fucking moment in between downloading the latest app for their shiny new iphone 4?

The saddest thing about all this is that what we are witnessing are some of the more brutal affects of capitalism at play, and of living in a deeply unequal and class-based society. At least Cameron et al know that there are a few hiccups along the way in trying to keep the subservient underclass placated. Not so these facebook muppets.


(anger)

 

[Anarcho Munk]

This is a fairly solid and sober statement by North London Sol Federation

http://libcom.org/news/north-london-solfeds-response-london-riots-09082011

Worth a quick read.

 

[steve albino]

It's been making me very angry and sadly depressed today. Can people not put themselves in other peoples shoes for one fucking moment in between downloading the latest app for their shiny new iphone 4?

The saddest thing about all this is that what we are witnessing are some of the more brutal affects of capitalism at play, and of living in a deeply unequal and class-based society. At least Cameron et al know that there are a few hiccups along the way in trying to keep the subservient underclass placated. Not so these facebook muppets.


(anger)

The truly disastrous consequences of these lack of easily analysed events combined with a healthy dose of fear / fearmongering and thoughtless reactions has become apparent in the current state of french politics and society. There were eerily simlar circumstances here a few years back - kids died while fleeing the cops followed by insane rioting (where the motivations of the rioters were many and varied - from the laudable to the idiotic) preceeded and followed by some of the worst opinion baiting I've ever seen in the media which was then picked up by carrerist politicians for political gain. As time progressed and the threat of events repeating - anything that even resembled a riot was blown up into the next potential disaster - people's genuinely felt fear was one of the key elements that allowed the whole poitical spectrum to shift to the right ( and not just by a small amount).
Today we're faced with an impotent political system where career politicians have been outplayed at their own game and a far right which has never been in a better position to win a presidential election. people are worn down and divided (the haughty intellos vs the burdened middle class vs the scum vs the niggers vs the towel heads vs the queers vs the downtrodden working class vs the rich vs etc. etc.) and more extreme forms of repressive social measures are written into law on a weekly basis.
Someone said it very well recently (I think it was in this: http://www.o-books.com/obookssite/book/detail/358) - "the class war never stopped, the rich continue to wage it".
Sadly depressed is right.

 

[steve albino]

sorry again - obviously that post was to say that it might be a good idea to learn from the baguette-eater's mistakes...

 

[Mormon Nailer]

http://rosamicula.livejournal.com/540476.html

I had to red this a couple of times. She gives the impression she is going down a "those bloody Poles" cul de sac, but doesn't actually - so persevere.

(and it was posted on a friends Facebook - so it's not all hang 'em and flog 'em over there!)

 

[Mormon Nailer]

Snippits of reactions from the UK press here.
http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/08/london-riot-reax-the-uk-press.html

Dispriting.
Tough in the heat of it all, I don't suppose they are going to say otherwise, perhaps the deeper analysis will follow after the glass has been swept up.....or perhaps not.

 

[hugh]

http://rosamicula.livejournal.com/540476.html

I had to red this a couple of times. She gives the impression she is going down a "those bloody Poles" cul de sac, but doesn't actually - so persevere.

(and it was posted on a friends Facebook - so it's not all hang 'em and flog 'em over there!)

Interesting read in that she is sympathetic to the reasons this is happening but doesn't acknowledge any structural economic/political factors underlying it. The attitude seems to be that there will always be an underclass as that's just the natural order of things and any attempt to do anything about it is just naive and misguided left-wing idealism. But rather than just saying "screw them" and keep them under control with harsher policing etc etc she thinks we should all be trying to help them out a bit by teaching night classes or something. Daaahling ...

 

[Carlow Punks!]

very good mormon, i think thats what i've been thinking or attempting to think but failing to actually put into words all day. i'm stealing it if you dont mind.

'looting it', you might say...

 

[pete]

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2011/08/10/tweet-and-lowdown/

 

[D0njo]

Sarah Sands, The Evening Standard:

"It seems to me insulting and naïve to say that the rioters lacked entertainment.
If they want something to do, they can start by cleaning up the streets."

In fairness, setting a massive fire is a tad more exciting than sweeping up a bit of rubbish.

 

[GARYXKNIFEDX]

I dare ya.

http://www.metalireland.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=49479&start=165

 

[hugh]

I dare ya.

http://www.metalireland.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=49479&start=165

Jaysus ... that's like listening to a bunch of ex-army pensioners or something ....

 

[steve albino]

shit, misspelt "careerist".

The extremely reasonable tone and atmosphere of this thread is really fucking reassuring considering some of the tomfuckery of the last few days, but jesus, I feel like putting my boots on and getting stuck into the metallers.

(obviously internet boots and intellectual getting stuck in - there's been enough of that real world messing to last a while now)

 

[Cormcolash]

Watching news coverage of the riots...intelligent humans infused w brutish beahviour..followed by ads for Rise of Apes.....brutish creatures infused w human intelligence.

Haha, and there was me about to come here and post the trailer for that Planet of The Apes film!!!

 

[pete]

 

[pete]

http://wosblog.podgamer.com/2011/08/10/david-camerons-new-best-friend/