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[тхеодоре кацзынски]

http://www.independent.ie/national-...kicks-off-its-eurovision-in-rome-1726793.html

so they're racist too?im b(l)ack on board
"keep europe white"

 

[IFF]

spooky - it's up there now!

i don't see it. i see their own logo but not a logo for the ACCA or CPA or ICAI

i did compare it to a work colleagues husbands website and the ACCA logo has a lot of prominence on his website.

now, question are libertas running anyone in the local election are have they only 3 members in ireland?

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

re the accountants,seems he's not in the acca,i had a seach on the acca website and this came up

Directory of Members - Members' Details

You searched on the following details : Surname : CUDDY First Name : MICHEAL Town : ATHLONE Country : Ireland

There are no records which match your search criteria.
If you wish to perform another search please enter different data and try again.

he is however listed in the yellow pages at the address on his website.any potential odd-ness there?

 

[Wobbler]

Pan-European party with policies that are far from pan-European




EUROPEAN DIARY: In Ireland, Libertas is campaigning to restrict freedom of movement, but in Poland its policy is different, writes JAMIE SMYTH
“SHURELY SHOME mishtake,” as Private Eye used to say. Declan Ganley’s pan-European, “pro-European” Libertas is calling for tough limits on the freedom of movement of workers?
Libertas, which is running aggressive European election campaigns in Poland, Latvia and the Czech Republic, apparently wants to prevent citizens from these countries coming to work in Ireland. The party’s Ireland East candidate, Raymond O Malley, told Today FM last week that “you’ve got to stop the tide coming”.
Libertas’s Caroline Simons later said limits were needed to “reduce the burden to Ireland of caring for inhabitants of other member states” and proposed making all EU citizens apply for a “blue card” to work in other states.
The proposal calls into question one of the EU’s four fundamental freedoms; the other three are free movement of capital, services and goods. And it’s not easy to square with the fact that the Galway-based businessman was a migrant himself in Britain during the 1980s and now pops up regularly in EU capitals to canvass for votes or clinch business deals.
Libertas’s attempt to make immigration a campaign issue may well reflect the fact that its candidates in Dublin and Ireland East are barely registering in polls. Perhaps it feels it needs to make bolder and more extreme statements to capture public attention.
But there is a danger that suggesting migrants from Poland, Latvia and other EU states have become a burden on the State might inflame racial tensions in Ireland at a difficult economic time.
Raising fears about immigration was a key campaign tactic of Libertas’s spin doctor Lynton Crosby in past Australian and British elections. He is credited with coining the slogan, “We decide who comes into this country”, for the 2001 Australian elections and with advising prime minister John Howard when he refused entry to a Norwegian ship carrying 400 Afghan asylum seekers who had been rescued from a sinking ship.
In Australia, playing the immigration card worked for Crosby, helping Howard win four successive elections.
He brought this get tough on immigrants stance to Europe when he advised Conservative leader Michael Howard to make it a campaign issue during the 2005 general election.
He failed to make an impact in that campaign, but returned from Australia to help Boris Johnson win last year’s election to become mayor of London.
Critics will say Simons’s suggestion that the Government should ask its 26 EU partners to renegotiate one of the EU’s four fundamental freedoms is a cynical piece of electioneering that could undermine the union’s internal market – so critical to Ireland’s economy.
Re-establishing visas for EU citizens to work in other member states could cause a major headache for the thousands of Irish living and working in other parts of Europe.
And what about the Irish companies, such as AIB and CRH, that have bought up firms in new member states like Poland? If we want to close our borders to Polish citizens, should our firms be allowed to repatriate profits to their Irish parents from subsidiaries?
Under Simons’s proposed “blue card” system, migrant workers from other EU states would be able to work in Ireland for two years. Yet, although paying taxes to the Irish exchequer, they would not receive any health or social benefits, which would remain the responsibility of their home country within the union. This would strip away a core right enjoyed by European citizens when they travel abroad.
So should Spain get tough on the thousands of Irish homeowners on the Costa del Sol and make them fly home for treatment if they sprain an ankle on the golf course or suffer sunburn on the beach?
The new Libertas policy may also cause confusion internally. In Poland, the party is campaigning on a platform to remove the remaining EU limits on free movement of workers.
At the launch of Libertas Poland in February, Artur Zawisza and Daniel Pawlowiec criticised “the egoistic policy of the two Germanic countries” (Germany and Austria) for not opening their labour markets to Poles. This is “unacceptable to Poles”, they said.
Now, however, their Irish colleagues in Libertas want to reimpose barriers. Polish newspapers picked up on Libertas’s plan yesterday, with the daily Rzeczpospolita running a front-page story under the headline, “Irish Libertas wants to limit influx of Poles”.
Gazeta Wyborcza’s European correspondent wrote in her blog that Ganley had now given up his “rather liberal (free market, I mean) economic outlook”.
The apparent contradictions will certainly provide ammunition to the party’s critics.
This is the “pro-European” party that snuggles up to the continent’s most prominent Eurosceptics, the party that campaigns in one country to restrict the rights of other EU citizens to travel abroad to work and in another to remove existing restrictions on working abroad, and the party that calls on MEPs to reveal their expenses while dragging its feet over revealing the sources of its own funding.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2009/0519/1224246880126.html

 

[hugh]

I'm really looking forward to when these fuckers call over to my house to canvas me. No joy yet though ....

 

[Luther Blissett]

www.libertas.eu

they got my vote anyway,anyone else?

Doesn't look like it from the election results. But now's your chance to go for the leadership of the party.

Declan Ganley has conceded that he will not take a seat in the European elections and will now 'bow out of political life'.
http://www.rte.ie/news/elections/tracker.html
Arriving at the count centre in Castlebar this evening, Mr Ganley said he accepted that people had not given him a mandate to represent them in the European Parliament.
He also stated he would play no part in the second Lisbon referendum, saying 'the future of Libertas is a matter for others.'


Last night, the Libertas leader had requested a recheck of ballots in the North West amid concerns that some of its votes may have been inadvertently allocated to other candidates.


However that recheck found that Mr Ganley had been awarded 3,000 extra votes in error.

The 3,000 votes - for Independent candidate Fiachra O'Luain - were found in the Libertas bundles and Mr O'Luain's first count total has now been revised upwards accordingly.

 

[IFF]

a conversation with a friend last week

friend: i'm going to vote for libertas
iff: ah, well it'll be your only chance to vote for them
friend: why?
iff: *just smiled*

 

[ITalkShite]

However that recheck found that Mr Ganley had been awarded 3,000 extra votes in error.

Hahahahahahaha!

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

Doesn't look like it from the election results. But now's your chance to go for the leadership of the party.

i might just,with all the alleged links to the cia etc getting my hands on some weaponry wouldnt be too hard surely,then the irish defence forces being what they are....

 

[IFF]

Mr O'Luain said he is now asking gardaí in Castlebar to investigate how his votes ended up in Mr Ganley's bundles.

according to rte, Fiachra O'Luain is going to ask the gardaí to investigate how three of his bundles of votes ended up with the ganley pile

 

[D0njo]

Shenanigans, ha?


"However that recheck found that Mr Ganley had been awarded 3,000 extra votes in error"

 

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[Diddles]

If at first you don't succeed....

... don't bother your bollix

 

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[therealjohnny]

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2009/0612/1224248690587.html

 

[JohnnyRaz]

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2009/0612/1224248690587.html

this really has exploded spectacularly in his face. great crack.
either that or the whole thing will turn out to have been an extended promotional ploy for his upcoming burger chain - 'ganley burgers-where the peoples chips count'