Water Charges (1 Viewer)

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

FG ex-lord mayor plans court action if charges scrapped and refunds denied

This lads gone on a solo run on this. I think FF have the right approach, get rid of the charges but pursue non-payers for previous bills. Either way, the whole thing is an unsightly mess. Nice one FG.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

pursue non-payers for previous bills.

Ah here

The effort versus the reward there is so out of whack as to be pointless, no?

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

Ah here

The effort versus the reward there is so out of whack as to be pointless, no?

Possibly. Unless an attachment of earnings order is brought in. But even that may be difficult.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

Possibly. Unless an attachment of earnings order is brought in. But even that may be difficult.

Roll it into some credits or something.

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

Internment.

 

[therealjohnny]

confiscate their homes and deport them.

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

Great minds Johnny. Internal exile should be punishment enough though.

 

[therealjohnny]

Drowning them would be nice

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

Drowning them would be nice

In the tears of those who have paid.

 

[pete]

Bottom line is they just blinked, and in doing so have probably signed Irish Water's death warrant. Irrespective of any ideological views on the issue you might have, who in their right mind would pay now when, even if the charges remain, the penalty for late payment is only €60? vs €160 or whatever amount it is? It's a self fulfilling prophecy.

Or I may be completely wrong.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

Bottom line is they just blinked, and in doing so have probably signed Irish Water's death warrant. Irrespective of any ideological views on the issue you might have, who in their right mind would pay now when, even if the charges remain, the penalty for not paying is only €60? It's a self fulfilling prophecy.

Or I may be completely wrong.

I think we established earlier that no one is wrong

 

[pete]

Someone get a freakonomicist up in here to break it down.

 

[Lili Marlene]

I think we established earlier that no one is wrong

now, now.

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

Enda's not for turning. Everyone else is telling people not to pay though, an all out boycott now could well end the debacle.

 

[therealjohnny]

A lot of people who paid up will demand their money back. Many will continue to pay because "it's the law" and also because it will feel like money down the drain, while the perceived unfairness of people who never paid getting away with it will rankle. The government and media will add fuel to that fire, and create hysteria over the amount of money it will cost to wind down, conveniently ignoring the billions we have already given away to bond holders and vulture capitalists through NAMA. They will keep mentioning the poor 27 Irish Water employees who are about to be made redundant . Once again they'll try to divide and conquer. I can't see an all out boycott happening.

I have spoken.

 

[nooleen]

Enda's not for turning. Everyone else is telling people not to pay though, an all out boycott now could well end the debacle.

i predict an all-out debacle instead

edit: as described by johnnystress above

 

[therealjohnny]

Ruth Coppinger said on the radio earlier that Enda has already blinked, suggesting bills could be delayed for a year or something. I haven't found anything on line to clarify that yet though.

 

[Unknown Convict]

do robots blink?

 

[nooleen]

Fianna Fáil proposes permanent end to water charges

 

[therealjohnny]

So...everyone out marching tomorrow?