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[Hector Grey]

Tough game for Smith to get thrown in. Looked like he was in shock, touch was Toure-ing all over the gaff.

Someone like that Assiaidi chap at Stoke would have been a good option to have on the bench...oh, wait....

Meanwhile, we need an enforcer. I've been saying Momo Diame ..nick him from the hammers, cheap, prem ready and a much better player than he's given credit for. You know, that or Arturo Vidal. Let's get Salah and Draxler in too, while we're at it. And Paolo Maldini from 1990.

 

[dunderhead]

game on tv tomorrow?

 

[Hector Grey]

Dunno. 3pm kick off...but maybe it's different for cup games. I forget what cup games are supposed to be about.

 

[Hector Grey]

Doesn't seem to be a stream available either. Fark that.

 

[pete]

Con Artist (@Con_Artistes) presents:

The Anatomy of Liverpool: An Evening with Jonathan Wilson & Scott Murray and host John Keith.

The Sugar Club. 18.00. Sunday January 12th.

**Interest in this event is such that early purchase of tickets is strongly recommended. The perfect Christmas gift for Liverpool supporters.**

After our previous two sold-out football evenings (The Blizzard; Sid Lowe: Fear And Loathing in La Liga) at The Sugar Club, Con Artist returns with a surgical dissection of ‘The Anatomy of Liverpool: A History in 10 Matches’ - the book by Jonathan Wilson & Scott Murray. This evening with Jonathan & Scott will be hosted by the inestimable John Keith author, broadcaster, journalist & Merseyside football historian. Following the talk, there will be an audience-voted screening of one of the 10 matches covered in the book with introduction by our panel.

The Anatomy of Liverpool: A History in 10 Matches

Wilson & Murray’s new book is a compellingly forensic analysis of ten key Liverpool matches that have shaped the club's fortunes for more than a century - from the long-lost triumphs of manager Tom Watson, who arrived in 1896, to the 1977 European Cup triumph over Borussia Mönchengladbach, to the astonishing Champions League Final comeback against AC Milan, 'The Miracle of Istanbul', in 2005. Legendary players and managers of the stature of Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley and Kenny Dalglish populate these pages, which highlight the genius and the flaws of individuals by examining them in practice.

Certain games lie on the fault-lines of history. Perhaps they mark the end of one era or the beginning of another. Perhaps they encapsulate a summation of a manager's reign. Or perhaps they mark a crossroads, moments at which football looked one way, and then went the other. But this is not a virtual history of Liverpool FC. the prime purpose is not to speculate on what might have been. Rather it will try to determine why what was, was. No game is won or lost, after all, in a single moment but by a million little things.

The Anatomy of Liverpool tells the story of a great club through a detailed examination of ten key matches looking, as a football history must, first and foremost at the football.

Jonathan Wilson
Jonathan Wilson (@jonawils) is founder & editor of The Blizzard. A sports journalist and renowned author who writes for a number of publications, including the Guardian, the Independent, the Daily Telegraph, FourFourTwo & Sports Illustrated. Wilson was football correspondent for the Financial Times from 2002 to 2006 and is a columnist for World Soccer, The Irish Examiner and bettingexpert amongst others whilst also being a regular participant on The Guardian football podcast, "Football Weekly". He is a Sunderland A.F.C. supporter.

Bibliography
Behind the Curtain: Travels in Eastern European Football
Sunderland: A Club Transformed
Inverting the Pyramid: A History of Football Tactics [Winner 'Best Football Book' 2009 British Sports Book Awards. Shortlisted for the 2008 William Hill Sports Book of the Year.]
The Anatomy of England: A History in Ten Matches
Brian Clough: Nobody Ever Says Thank You
The Outsider: A History of the Goalkeeper
The Anatomy of Liverpool: A History in Ten Matches


Scott Murray

Scott Murray is a journalist and author. He is a regular contributor to the Guardian, whose sport website he used to edit; he now writes live minute-by-minute match reports, the Fiver, and the weekly historical Joy of Six column. He has also written for G2, the Guardian Guide, FourFourTwo, AOL Fanhouse, the Evening Standard, GQ, GQ Sport, Esquire, Arena, Spin cricket magazine, and Men’s Health. He wrote the English edition of Football for Dummier, is the co-author of football miscellany Day of the Match. co-author of Phantom of the Open, the preposterous but true story of bad golfer Maurice Flitcroft, the belligerent troublemaker who shot the worst round in 150 years of Open history. He was also a contributor to both volumes of Steve Lowe and Alan McArthur's Is It Just Me Or Is Everything Shit? and a co-writer of the E4 comedy Golf War. Scott is a Liverpool FC supporter.

John Keith

John Keith author, broadcaster and stage producer/performer, was a Daily Express staff sportswriter for more than 30 years and was one of seven media representatives summoned to Downing Street to meet British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher after the 1985 Heysel disaster.

John left the Express in 1996 to concentrate on broadcasting and writing books. He hosted BBC Radio Merseyside’s Saturday Football Phone-In for almost a decade and co-presented Team of the Century in which listeners voted for their best team of the 20th century drawn from Everton, Liverpool and Tranmere players. In 2008 John joined new station City Talk 105.9 to launch a Saturday evening show entitled Strictly John Keith, featuring studio guests from sport, showbiz and the media talking revealingly about their lives and careers.

John covers Everton and Liverpool home games as a match reporter for Ireland’s national radio service RTE and has featured in several television programmes including Granada’s hit series Reds in Europe, various BBC football documentaries and he appeared in the 13-hour History of Football.

He has written more than 30 books, ranging from children’s annuals in collaboration with Kenny Dalglish and Kevin Keegan, a comic strip book with Brookside and film actor Bill Dean, and acclaimed biographies of Dixie Dean, Bill Shankly, Bob Paisley, Colin Harvey, Billy Liddell and Ian Callaghan. The biography of Kevin Sheedy will be published in April 2014. His book, 2008 Reasons Why Merseyside Is The Capital Of Football, written jointly with Gavin Buckland, was published for Liverpool’s European Capital of Culture year 2008.

In September 2006 John wrote, produced and appeared in the first stage presentation of The Bill Shankly Story, a show which has played in four countries and stretches into its eighth year in 2014 featuring Anfield legends Ian St John, Ian Callaghan and Chris Lawler. It was the first British football stage show to be presented in Norway and in September 2008 it was selected as one of the United Kingdom events to launch the Cultural Olympiad, building to the 2012 Olympic Games in London.

John also wrote and appears in The Dixie Dean Story stage show which he co-produces. It premiered in May 2008 to celebrate the Everton and England legend’s record 60 League goals in 1927-28. In 2007,John narrated a short documentary film telling the story of John Brodie, the Liverpool-based inventor of goal nets.

The Anatomy of Liverpool: An Evening with Jonathan... Tickets, Dublin - Eventbrite

 

[Con Artist]

Last forum call for this Sunday - It's going to be a good one. Doors at 6. Talk at 7. Some links from during the week to whet the appetite...

1. Interview with Jonathan Wilson on Game On 2FM last night: RTÉ - Game On Podcast

2. Interview with Scott Murray on Off The Ball: Newstalk - Scott Murray on 'The Anatomy of Liverpool'

3. Unsure which match to vote for? Have a look at our highlights reel here to give you some inspiration! Big ups to Tony Galvin's nephew, Steven for putting this together:

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4. Totally Dublin with their 3 choice events for the weekend including #TheAnatomyOfLiverpool...The Totally Dublin Weekender | January 10th - 12th | Totally Dublin - Latest News & Events in Dublin

5. Joe.ie Wishlist: ""If you’re a fan of the Merseyside club, then there’s a night in the Sugar Club this week that’s a must see, where acclaimed football authors Jonathan Wilson and Scott Murray discuss their most recent book, The Anatomy of Liverpool: A History in Ten Matches. As the title suggests, they look at ten of the most important matches in the history of the club and how they impacted the team that we know today, as well as looking at their illustrious past and how these matches defined their time, or highlighted the end of an era. We’re sure that there are plenty of sports books that might not have been under the tree at Christmas, and if this wasn’t one of them, then you should head out and get it now so you have time to read it before the Q&A session this weekend."

JOE’s Wish List: A night of chat about Liverpool, hipster football jerseys and cameras | JOE.ie

6. Tickets here: The Anatomy of Liverpool: An Evening with Jonathan... Tickets, Dublin - Eventbrite

...and will be available on the door.

Keep an eye on @Con_Artistes for updates!

 

[oh shit]

Hope the Jonathan Wilson was good last night.

I'd forgotten how brilliant Sturridge is.

 

[Wheels]

Sturridge's cameo yesterday was a thing of sublime beauty. The deft flick of his boot to set up Suarez for the fourth and his insanely good close control to score his own were both glorious to behold. City's strikers are all hugely impressive but our two are the best strikeforce in the league, hands down.

 

[Unicron]

Sturridge feeling secure in his starting place has really helped to improve his game. When he was at Chelsea I always thought he was incredibly selfish, perhaps he was just trying too hard.

 

[Hector Grey]

At Chelsea he was surrounded by cunts.

 

[Unicron]

At Chelsea he was surrounded by cunts.

These days he's only playing with Gerrard and Suarez.

 

[Hector Grey]

These days he's only playing with Gerrard and Suarez.

Stand up guys. Decent, honest men. Almost entirely not racist.

 

[Wheels]

Luis Garcia has retired. He was a good lad...most of the time...

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[dunderhead]

not starting lucas turned out to be quite the fuck up.
gerrard was absolutely walking in that role. he was saying after stoke that it'll take him a few games to adapt. a few games? hes got a long way to go if hes gonna be playing there. improved in second half after the switch but generally had a shit game.
cissokho is a mindless donkey moving forward. unfortunately he got a lot of ball tonight which was a complete waste of possession. defended okay at times.
glen johnson seems to be wilting away slowly but surely. he has been very ropey all season and had another stinker tonight.
mignolet has taken a very bad turn of late also. second goal was woeful.
touré average tonight. skrtel was great i thought.
everyone completely not at the races for the first half. can't be relying on attack to produce 3 or 4 every week. guzan wasnt as tested as would have been liked after 2-2
agbonlahor going off killed off villa going forward. reckon they'd have bagged another if he played 90
BLEURGGGGH!! a fucking horrible two points left behind

 

[Hector Grey]

The only positive thing you could say is that it's an improvement on last season's result. It's pretty clear we need a midfielder and a left back asap. If only the xfer window was open.

 

[oh shit]

Cissokho really is shite, it's like watching Dossena all over again, it makes me angry seeing him sort of bundle forward with the ball bobbling along in front of him, totally out of control, totally directionless, seeing him whack it aimlessly towards the middle, if not into an opponent's shin or accidentally out of play. I don't understand.

I think Brendan expected Villa to come and park the bus but then having advertised all week that Gerrard is suddenly the new Pirlo - and implying that we don't need a defensive midfielder alongside him - it didn't take a tactical genius to decide to tell Weimann to put him under pressure. Fair play to Villa, we made it easy for them on that count but they still had to score the goals.

The Allen-Henderson-Lucas trio was at the heart of everything good we did in December, why fuck around with that if they're fit? Sturridge-Suarez-Sterling are good enough to sort themselves out up front, Coutinho can take a break... seems simple to me but I guess that's why I'm not a football manager.

 

[oh shit]

Ha - The Good, the Bad, and the Cissokho

 

[Hector Grey]

The Cissokho situation is ridiculous. It's clear that he's 3rd choice, after Enrique, who's fucked and also Flanagan. But there's no mention of getting in a new left back. It's a priority, but I suppose as it's been a priority since 1987 they reckon there's no real rush. I still have hopes for Jack Robinson. I dunno why. Because he gets good on Fifa i suppose. Really must stop forming opinions because of what happens in 2018 in the fifa universe.

When we do shit badly, it's quite often Brendan trying something and getting it wrong. On the plus side, he seems to realise this. He also seems to give players rope to hang themselves with. If the team is winning, he won't change it unnecessarily. But after that result he can tell Kolo to stand down again, and maybe have that conversation with Gerrard. And maybe plant his foot in Glen Johnson's nads until the lad wakes up from his coma.

He doesn't seem to rate Lucas much, does he? Rumours are abounding about a mobile, tackling midfielder. Bring it on.

 

[Cormcolash]

Robinson. I dunno why. Because he gets good on Fifa i suppose. Really must stop forming opinions because of what happens in 2018 in the fifa universe.

McGeady becomes one of the best players in the world in Pro Evo. Just like real life I guess.

 

[washingcattle]

He doesn't seem to rate Lucas much, does he? Rumours are abounding about a mobile, tackling midfielder. Bring it on.

Do Liverpool have a holding midfielder though ? Gibson and Barry are slow as fuck but they do okay and we play very similar football to you.

I'm still of the opinion that Gerrard has to be accommodated by 2 midfielders to fit him in the side which is why he looked brilliant when Masch and Alonso where there and hasn't looked as good since or ever for England.

They should take a leaf out of Tim Sherwoods book and go 4-4-2 with Downing and Coutinho, Lucas and Sterling in the middle of the park and The Barcelona style of defence, i.e not let to opponent touch the ball.

To be honest it's a moot point, they should just play the team they put out against City (Probably the best I've seen Liverpool play since destroying United 4-1, definitely the best I've ever seen you lot play and lose) whenever possible and accept that Gerrard hasn't got the legs any more.