Water Charges (1 Viewer)

[ann post]

Wow my computer really is near the end.

 

[Cornu Ammonis]

Maybe he got his Leaving Cert-aged son to write it.

I got given out yards to in second year of secondary school for using a dictionary definition in an essay. I've never used it since and judge those who do use it unfavourably.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

They did it in the Simpsons, didn't they?

Didn't Bart start some hack essay like "Websters defines....." which was a warning that it was shit.

 

[Cornu Ammonis]

They did it in the Simpsons, didn't they?

Didn't Bart start some hack essay like "Websters defines....." which was a warning that it was shit.

I thought it was Homer's desperation at running a night course on relationships:
"Webster's Dictionary defines a wedding as the process of removing weeds from one's garden"

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

I thought it was Homer's desperation at running a night course on relationships:
"Webster's Dictionary defines a wedding as the process of removing weeds from one's garden"

You're probably right. Nooly will know.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

The internet seems to think that Lionel Hutz was fond of it too.

So they guy is in class company.

 

[Cornu Ammonis]

You're right:
"But I ask you, what is a contract? Webster's defines it as "an agreement under the law which is unbreakable." Which is unbreakable!"

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

I miss Lionel

 

[Cornu Ammonis]

And all the other good things that there used to be about The Simpsons.

 

[rettucs]

I reckon we should have our independence taken off us and given to Scotland because we have no fucking clue how to run a country.

How in the name of jaysus do the govt think what they announced today is gonna wash with people?

Also, someone correct me on this if anything here is wrong.

1. Enda Kenny mentioned that the cost of water charges will be less than what people will save in tax cuts next year.

2. When the troika said that we needed to tax water they gave the option to the Irish govt on how to do it. One option was not to tax it directly but rather, redirect it from other parts of the tax take.

3. Given 1 and 2 above, the govt could have said nothing about anything to do with water charges, just not made any tax cuts, and redirect whatever funds were slated to be lost by those tax cuts. That way there'd be no Irish Water and no world of absolute shit that they've created.

Am I missing something here?

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

Am I missing something here?

The chance to reward politicians friends with a position on a well paid state board with seemingly* guaranteed bonuses just for showing up to work?

*They've had to defer them for a few years.

 

[ann post]

Has anyone considered the tin foil hat theory that enda & co are in a bind that FF tied, and as regards their jobs they have to stick with it, and in that case the only way they can kill it is by making it so unpopular it dies of natural causes?

 

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[тхеодоре кацзынски]

The chance to reward politicians friends with a position on a well paid state board with seemingly* guaranteed bonuses just for showing up to work?

*They've had to defer them for a few years.

I'm not sure they can kill it without losing more legitimacy. They didn't have to introduce water charges but now that they have their essentially stuck with it.

 

[nooleen]

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'keelin'

ffs

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

Reasonable Force For Reasonable People | Broadsheet.ie

Jaysis. I was expecting the opposite from him.

 

[nooleen]

Minister for Environment Alan Kelly walked out on debate about water charges.

Leaving just four government representatives on the benches of the Dáil to face the entire opposition, Kelly, the Taoiseach and Tánaiste all left while the Fianna Fáil spokesperson Barry Cowen was beginning his questioning of the Minister. Then they left and the Dáil was suspended.

Reports also that hundreds of cops are circulating inside and outside Leinster House as protests build.

 

[nooleen]

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this guy's been live-tweeting proceedings

Gavan Reilly (@gavreilly) | Twitter

go back about 3-4 hours to when the debate was meant to start

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

Reasonable Force For Reasonable People | Broadsheet.ie

Good read, I've long liked Clonan.
I think the problem with the Gardai is one of incompetence more than anything. They're either absent from a situation in sufficent numbers to exercise control or else they're wading in pushing/beating everyone in sight.
While its an admirable aspect of our system that politicians are readily accessible to the public this may need to be reconsidered if the guards can't control that access while ensuring the protection of the politician and the rights of the individual.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

I think the problem with the Gardai is one of incompetence more than anything.

I've been saying this for forever.