US Presidential Elections 2008 (2 Viewers)

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nice article on mccain:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/05/johnmccain.uselections20081

Bumiller got off lightly. Others have been told, to their faces, that they are "shitheads", "fucking jerks" and "assholes". And they were Republicans. Cliff Schecter, a political blogger and erstwhile McCain admirer, relates in his book The Real McCain an incident from 1992 that he sourced from three journalists from the senator's home state of Arizona. McCain's wife Cindy was playfully twiddling with his hair one day.
"You're getting a little thin up there," she said.
McCain grew red in the face and replied: "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollop, you cunt."

Yeah, I have heard this sort of thing even from his supporters.
They were saying that if you disagree with anything he says or thinks, he wont ever accept that there might be two viewpoints, or possibly rethink he own position.

He will lock even harder to his position, become even more dogmatic about things, and personally take offense with the anyone putting forward the other position.
And he is a very very angry man.

 

[hugh]

Yeah, I have heard this sort of thing even from his supporters.
They were saying that if you disagree with anything he says or thinks, he wont ever accept that there might be two viewpoints, or possibly rethink he own position.

Who does that remind you of?

He will lock even harder to his position, become even more dogmatic about things, and personally take offense with the anyone putting forward the other position.
And he is a very very angry man.

Though George W. never struck me as being angry. Way too dopey to be angry ...

 

[Vinnie]

Get ready for the most sinister & unsettling presidential campaign in US history.

 

[taubstumm]

Get ready for the most sinister & unsettling presidential campaign in US history.

even more than polk v. clay in 1844?

 

[Moods For Mallards]

even more than polk v. clay in 1844?

Less so.

 

[Vinnie]

even more than polk v. clay in 1844?

I have no idea. I overheard someone saying that. Is there an election this year?

 

[Dktr. Faustus]

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that smile, holy shit

 

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Who does that remind you of?


Though George W. never struck me as being angry. Way too dopey to be angry ...

Yeah. I think he probably is fairly dopey, and weak. And not angry.

 

[pete]

http://www.videosift.com/video/TDS-Obama-makes-history

 

[AcrAngEL]

Now the US presidential election is fast approaching who would be our next ruler?? Hummmm I just saw this video poll of Barack Obama and John McCain, beginning to set the tone for their campaign. As I Look at their most recent speeches, in pollclash what do you think about what you hear?

 

[mr pharmacist!!!!1]

http://www.thingsyoungerthanmccain.com/

 

[magicbastarder]

A black woman in Illinois sent me this e-mail on the night of Obama’s final victory: “Tomorrow I will go to the African-American cemetery outside of Chicago where my great-grandparents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, friends, neighbours and my mother and father are buried. And I will tell them that they were right - that if we studied hard, worked hard, kept the faith, fought for justice, prayed, that this day would come.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article4085815.ece

 

[Froog]

http://edition.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/2007/04/mccain-sings-bomb-bomb-iran.html

bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb iran! what a crackpot.

 

[Moods For Mallards]

There's a Thumped poster named after 'Bomb Iran'. Such a provocative name for a child.
That probably settles it anyway - President McCain.

 

[CitySickness]

http://edition.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/2007/04/mccain-sings-bomb-bomb-iran.html

bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb iran! what a crackpot.

 

[Froog]

FOX really coming into their own now:

http://people.bath.ac.uk/pypmsa/medium/1071m.jpg

Fox News anchor ED Hill has lost her show a week after suggesting Barack Obama and his wife Michelle's on-stage victory gesture could be seen as a "terrorist fist jab".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/11/fox-news-calls-michelle-o_n_106655.html

FOX news calls Micelle "Obama's baby mama".

 

[jane]

Whoop, there it is.

I'm not at all surprised that the astonishingly ignorant US racism is coming to the fore. I'm just a little surprised that it took this long.

And now, in addition to being constantly compared to 'safe' black people, Obama will increasingly be compared to Dangerous Dark People From History.

Sigh.

 

[flashback]

Dangerous Dark People From History:

YouTube - black ninja

 

[shower another shower]

When McCain Drops Out

When the Republicans choose their candidate on September 4th, there is a very real chance that they could throw the election into an unexpected chaos as they pull a genuine September Surprise.

I think there is every reason to believe John McCain won't be the nominee. Ok, let me say that again. McCain will not be the Republican candidate in November.

Here's how it could happen:
At some point in mid August, John McCain will announce that he has decided that he can not accept his party's nomination for president. The reason will be health-related, and that may turn out to be the truth. Anyone who's seen him on stage these days knows he looks like he's about to keel over. And anyone who's been on a presidential campaign knows the physical demands are grueling and can be a challenge for a young man.

But excuses or facts hardly matters. He won't be accepting his party's nomination.

The reasons are simple. He can't win. Now that Obama is the presumptive Democratic nominee -- the polls all show that McCain's pro-war stance and Bush endorsement make him a lost cause in November. That combined with soft stand on litmus test conservative issues make him an unpopular candidate among the base. I know some Democrats that think the Republicans are planning to let McCain lose and 'sit this one out' so that they can hang the democrats with a bad economy and a war that is a morass. But that just isn't how they play. They play to win every hand -- think about 2000 with a popular Democratic president and good economy and a solid VP running for president. Why did they put up Bush? And why did they fight so hard? Because, you don't ever throw a game. And they're not going to throw this one.

McCain won't be the nominee.

By August, they'll have done something to try and pick away at Obama's popularity. They'll emphasis race, or whatever they can to get him to appear less than perfect. Then, they'll bring out of the woodwork a surprise candidate who can shift the story fast. With just two months before the election -- the new candidate will have little time to be 'vetted' but will be shiny and new, and will get a lot of media attention as Obama's newness will have become -- by then -- tarnished or at least no longer the surprise that it has been as he unseated Hillary.

So, who will be the Republican candidate that faces Obama in the fall?
I've spoken to a number of friends who -- when presented with this set of facts respond: "but they don't have anybody else." That's simply not the case.

Joe Trippi, campaign consultant and most notably Howard Dean's campaign manager, said of McCain dropping out: "While crazy, this may be the best shot they have."

There are a whole list of Republicans who in many ways are more likely to energize the Republican base. One thing is certain -- there are candidates that will play to the core issues in ways that McCain simply can't.

Here's a list of names. Some you know, some you don't. But each of them knows their name is in play. Among them --

Condoleezza Rice (Secretary of State)
Colin Powell (fmr Sec. of State)
Marilyn Musgrave (Colorado Congresswoman)
Mitt Romney (fmr Massachusetts Governor)
Mike Huckabee (fmr Governor of Arkansas)
Charlie Crist (Florida Governor)
Tim Pawlenty (Minnesota Governor)
Bobby Jindal (Louisiana Governor)
Mark Sanford: (Governor of South Carolina)
John Thune (Senator from South Dakota)
Dick Lugar (Senator from Indiana)
Chuck Hagel (Senator from Nebraska)
MIchael Bloomberg (NYC Mayor)

Ok, go ahead knock them down. One by one. See if you can really remove ALL these names from a list of candidates that are more likely to give Obama a run for his money. They'll come on the scene late, with a press corps that is looking for a horse race and a new story. Obama's frontrunner status will be upset, and there will be a set of variables that need to be calculated -- and tested against a weary electorate.


Is this supposition? Sure, but one grounded with enough history and observation to take it beyond conjecture and into the realm of the possible.
So -- before the Democrats go and game out how to beat McCain, it may be worth thinking about what happens when he says he won't accept the nomination. For the Republicans, a wide open convention would be both good theater and good politics.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20080616/cm_huffpost/107236

 

[Mormon Nailer]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20080616/cm_huffpost/107236

Remember the stories about how Obabma would never be the candidate because Gore would sweep in and claim the nomination. Oh how we all waited to see if he had lost weight for his oscar speech which was to be the sign he was getting match fit for a campaign. Remember all that.