The Russian invasion of Ukraine (2 Viewers)

[seanc]

IOl' dirty bastard Vlad's girlfriend (b. 1983) a former Olympic champ gymnast with whom he has young kids.

Alina Kabaeva - Wikipedia

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I remember she caused some controversy at the opening ceremony at Sochi 2014, because she had a big role in it, and people asked "why her, who's she?". Then it became known that she's Putin's mot.

Or am I mixing her up with someone else?

 

[JohnnyRaz]

I suppose she was partly right as a woman wrote the article. apologies for calling her 'he'.
again, the bottom line is NATO'S actions between 1990 and 2013-14 are the genesis of this war.
some of the stuff she said was far away from anarchist politics and I'm surprised Freedom published this.

I’d say the genesis of this war is the majority of people in the former Soviet republics don’t want to be client states of Russia like Belarus. The ‘it’s all natos fault’ is a bit simplistic.
NATO expansion is a major factor in all this, but far from the only component, and ultimately NATO membership wouldn’t be attractive if the countries involved didn’t see Russia as a threat

 

[Cormcolash]

I'm surprised Freedom published this.

It's mad they published that dirge haha

 

[nuke terrorist]

I’d say the genesis of this war is the majority of people in the former Soviet republics don’t want to be client states of Russia like Belarus. The ‘it’s all natos fault’ is a bit simplistic.
NATO expansion is a major factor in all this, but far from the only component, and ultimately NATO membership wouldn’t be attractive if the countries involved didn’t see Russia as a threat

yeah BUT NATO should not have gotten involved in the Warsaw Pact nations - PERIOD!
I am going keep saying this here as long as it keeps coming up.

what happened between Berlin and Moscow 80 years ago was genocide on a scale we cannot begin to imagine. people in that area are still scared regardless of nationality.

even Russian soldiers were only told they were going into Ukraine at the last moment. they thought the exercises
were nearly over.

if 'the west' had treated Russia as a partner and eastern European folks with respect since the 1990's then Putin or a Putin type figure would not have come to power.

the USA blockades Cuba which is no threat to them but they still just don't get it about Ukraine being admitted to NATO.

The west signed trade deals and agreed good relations with Ghadaffi's Libya and then US secretary of state Hilary Clinton launched military action which has left the country in ruins.
when Trump broke the nuclear deal with Iran. Europe was furious but then fell in line with the USA anyway.
Yemen is being slaughtered by the Saudi army with western made weapons.

what happened since 2014 in Ukraine is overwhelmingly the Putin's government fault alright. but it should never have come to this.
I suppose this is all history now and what happens next is more important

 

[magicbastarder]

putin has cancer and is dying, i am reliably informed by my father in law.

 

[Cornu Ammonis]

putin has cancer and is dying, i am reliably informed by my father in law.

No, no, no! My mother told me he has Parkinson’s.

 

[seanc]

I heard Putin is actually Ant or Dec, the taller one, or maybe the shorter one.

 

[dudley]

I just wasn't made for these times

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[ernesto]

I just wasn't made for these times

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Holy fuck

 

[JohnnyRaz]

if 'the west' had treated Russia as a partner and eastern European folks with respect since the 1990's then Putin or a Putin type figure would not have come to power.

I don't disagree with most of what you've written - (in particular reference to libya - and how 'the wests' approach to trying to get regime change on the cheap across MENA after the arab spring has been a disaster for most of the countries involved) - but I think the complexities of the break up of the soviet union, and the multiple crises thereafter we not in the gift of 'the west' to fix.

US/NATO etc may not have been an honest broker through the 90s wrt Russia - but I'm not sure what would have prevent some of the internal crises and cultural shifts in the former USSR that contributed to the rise of Putin (Chechnya, economic collapse, rise of the oligarchs, rise of religious nationalism etc).

 

[Unicron]

US/NATO etc may not have been an honest broker through the 90s wrt Russia - but I'm not sure what would have prevent some of the internal crises and cultural shifts in the former USSR that contributed to the rise of Putin (Chechnya, economic collapse, rise of the oligarchs, rise of religious nationalism etc).

I think America has to bear some responsibility for that in that as I understand it they sent advisors in to help Russia restructure its economy post-communism.

 

[JohnnyRaz]

I think America has to bear some responsibility for that in that as I understand it they sent advisors in to help Russia restructure its economy post-communism.

absolutely - I'm not saying it didn't have a part, I'm just saying it wasn't the only or biggest part

 

[dudley]

Communion lorry...

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[JohnnyRaz]

Communion lorry...

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they have to get it from somewhere.

I remember when I was an alter boy the host/wafer used to arrive in big boxes in the post. I think it was made in a convent somewhere.

is this a new militant Catholicism we see??

 

[Unicron]

I remember when I was an alter boy the host/wafer used to arrive in big boxes in the post. I think it was made in a convent somewhere.

Meanwhile protestants prepare the bread by cutting the crust off a sliced pan slice, rolling it out and cutting into small squares. We're famously parsimonious of course.

 

[JohnnyRaz]

Meanwhile protestants prepare the bread by cutting the crust off a sliced pan slice, rolling it out and cutting into small squares. We're famously parsimonious of course.

The Catholic church wouldn't miss the opportunity to include an extra bit of religious iconography into the mix.

Cavanagh Altar Bread Assorted Incised Design 1-1/2" Whole Wheat, CAVA112WWC

Specifications: 1-1/2" (38mm) diameter whole wheat wafer or altar bread featuring assorted incised designs of the Lamb, Jerusalem and Maltese Cross on center. Note: Lamb design in whole wheat only Packaging : 500 hosts per container. Cavanagh Altar Bread For over 60 years, Cavanagh Altar...

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[GO]

‘I’ve done my bit, lads’ – suspect who said he was from Leitrim was led away by gardaí​

 

[pete]

Ukraine government releases commercial to recruit for foreign legion

Ukraine's government has started a campaign to recruit foreign volunteers to an "international legion" to fight invading Russian troops, following repeated calls by president Volodymyr Zelenskiy for outsiders to join in his country's defense.

www.irishtimes.com

 

[pete]

Almost 2,500 housing offers for Ukrainians as portal starts processing pledges

Minister says portal will allow people make offers of accommodation ‘in a clear way’

www.irishtimes.com

 

[magicbastarder]

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