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[Moods For Mallards]

It's grand over here on the southside.

 

[Moods For Mallards]

Gun crime stats are a bit misleading in terms of showing how violent a place is. I say this with particular reference to the great urban centres of Scotland, where gun culture isn't as strong as it is here or in England, but where they slice each other up for fun instead. I think the murder rate there is higher.

Dublin city centre is definitely one of the more menacing city centres in this part of the world at nighttime.

 

[washingcattle]

We have the other stories. Ondine, Zonad, Kisses, Once, Pyjama Girls etc.
We have the bollocks - Leap Year and The Matchmaker and their ilk.
But Dublin is a particularly violent city.
We're as mad about drugs as we are about gargle and it's led to an explosion in crime and fearless criminals.
People get shot and stabbed all the time. Random beatings for no reason are commonplace.
Spend some time in the courts and witness there's an entire generation that do not give a fuck about society or the law, for whom crime and drugs is a way of life. They are evolving and adapting to the system.
The Gards can't even begin to handle it and aren't particulalry arsed anyway, nor is there any political will except when it comes to cash-in-transit.
That's the city I live in and it's my experience of Dublin. A violent, miserable place.
I'm honestly kinda surprised there aren't more stories about it.

I saw Savage tonight and thought it was very strong.
Not a perfect film but it felt real. Great job from Muldowney and Healy.

No one is denying that Dublin is a violent city I'm saying it's not just a violent city. New York is a violent city but not every story you see from there is about violence. I'll give Kisses, Zonad and Ondine a go. Once ? it took a serious effort on my part to continue reading your post after that. Fucking Once ? Jesus Christ.

I can't wait to see the Finglas Alien movie Shneaky. Get started on it now.

 

[Moods For Mallards]

Ondine is one of the worst films I've seen in years, though the mermaid is fab and she's in very little a lot.

I agree with the general sentiment, Irish films do seem to conform to a certain few archetypes. There aren't that many Irish movies that aren't specifically commenting on Ireland in some way. Not sure if this is necessarily a bad thing but it is a thing. I think someone should make a movie about working class Subbuteo enthusiasm in the old days, where halfway thorugh the kid gets kidnapped by Aliens and comes back to earth as an adult to save Ireland from the Brits

 

[Lili Marlene]

I live in the heart of Ikeasville, Dublin. Nothing but friendly foreigners, sure it's grand.

 

[ratmonkey]

I think someone should make a movie about working class Subbuteo enthusiasm in the old days, where halfway thorugh the kid gets kidnapped by Aliens and comes back to earth as an adult to save Ireland from the Brits

I'd buy that for a dollar. Maybe add some ninjas though.

 

[washingcattle]

I agree with the general sentiment, Irish films do seem to conform to a certain few archetypes. There aren't that many Irish movies that aren't specifically commenting on Ireland in some way. Not sure if this is necessarily a bad thing but it is a thing.

As I've reccomended before, the current crop Irish Documentary films are excellent. Perhaps whoever is in charge of the film board/whoever it is that funds the industry here would be better off funding social commentary in this way rather than funding fiction which makes less successful comments on Irish society and actually seems to limit the creative output.

 

[washingcattle]

On the subject vaguely has anyone read Erasure by Percival Everett ? It's about an african american accademic who rights novels which retell ancient greek tales, his work is dismissed as critics fail to see what relivance it has to african american society. Seems to tie in here somehow.

 

[nooleen]

i dunno, i think you've got a bee in your bonnet about something that's not actually an issue...there are loads of irish films that aren't about Being Oirish or Aren't Dubliners Gas or whatever

 

[Moods For Mallards]

i dunno, i think you've got a bee in your bonnet about something that's not actually an issue...there are loads of irish films that aren't about Being Oirish or Aren't Dubliners Gas or whatever

Name 7 from the last 3 months.

 

[ann post]

Latest Titles With Country of Origin Ireland sorted by year descending.


http://www.imdb.com/search/title?countries=ie&sort=year,desc

 

[nooleen]

thanx ann post

 

[Scientician 0.8]

Not yet released


At Swim-Two-Birds (2011)
A playwright's life begins to mingle with the fictional characters he has created. Dir: Brendan Gleeson

 

[ann post]

Brendan gleeson

dont fuck up my favourite book.

good man.

 

[washingcattle]

i dunno, i think you've got a bee in your bonnet about something that's not actually an issue...there are loads of irish films that aren't about Being Oirish or Aren't Dubliners Gas or whatever

If there are what are they ? Postys link to IMDB really didn't prove anything for me to be honest. mostly they were shorts IRA related, a biopic about James Connolly some awful sounding romantic comedies and one called the Guard

The Guard (2011)
An unorthodox Irish policeman with a confrontational personality is teamed up with an uptight FBI agent to investigate an international drug-smuggling ring.

Die Hard with an accent

YaY

 

[ann post]

i think adam and paul will be downloaded by this evening.

then its a matter of waiting till i could be arsed.

 

[nooleen]

If there are what are they ? Postys link to IMDB really didn't prove anything for me to be honest. mostly they were shorts IRA related, a biopic about James Connolly some awful sounding romantic comedies and one called the Guard

well look at the irish film board site then, or do some googling...it doesn't sound like you've actually made much effort to pay attention to irish films before giving out about them.

maybe this is more useful:
http://directory.irishfilmboard.ie/categories/1-features?order=year&page=1

 

[washingcattle]

Well in fairness that's twice you've been asked the question Nooly and twice you've left it up to the internet to answer it.

Anyway I checked that list and of the 14 that are set for release in 2010 at least 5 of them seem to be very much the Savage, Adam and Paul type of thing. I'm not just having a go either it just seems that a lot of irish films seem to say the same thing or cover the same ground. That's hardly having a go.

 

[ann post]

it could be hypothezised that irish filmmakers are equally cursed and blessed. a big element of usa/hollywood films is that they mix and match their folklore and stories into things that make good films - or they mix and match cultural their sources a bit to make a good movie - aliens is an example in that the story came from one source and the visual appearance of the alien was more or less lifted from a graphic novel or something. in the case of irish film makes, they have countless wandering folk tales that are riddled with bits that would make a good film, they have a bunch of great authors and playwrites, they have a war, they have dublin (whatever that is) and so forth, there isnt a need to combine elements to make a good story, and then using the good story you'd have your nuts cut off for making fionn mac cumhall using schwarzenneger with a german accent, as you'd be betraying tradition or whatever.

it would only be a hypothezis though.

 

[ratmonkey]

Die Hard with an accent

Lethal Weapon, more like.