Riot in O'Connell st. (2 Viewers)

[hugh]

Hands up who knows what a wurley burger is?

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

ever had a deep-fried mars bar?
always wanted to try one.

if yr in dublin chipper on capel street does them.had one years back,very nice but very messy.and its pretty much instant heart attack....

 

[La La]

if yr in dublin chipper on capel street does them.had one years back,very nice but very messy.and its pretty much instant heart attack....

cool.
is the chipper still there? or was it smashed to pieces like the rest of the city?
apparently somewhere here does them but its far away and too much hassle

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

cool.
is the chipper still there? or was it smashed to pieces like the rest of the city?
apparently somewhere here does them but its far away and too much hassle

still there,not sure of the name but its down at the river end of the street.bring a defibillator though.(did i spell that right?)

 

[mazzyianne]

I still see a lot of class snobbery on this thread.
I dont believe people are 'naturally' violent. I think they're pissed off. But with the guards probably rather than the oranges.
I have friends who, because of where they lived, used to get the shit kicked out of them all the time in the back of cop vans (at the age of about 15 or so). It happens all the time. If they had got a chance to get their own back I reckon they'd have gone for it.
I dont understand why people think you have to have a degree or have read loads of marx to be a pissed off member of the working class lashing out.
I'm not saying that a working class revolution has started and I think there is some wishful thinking going on among socialists and anarchists about what this riot means.
Still, i think these people were pissed off for a reason and shouldn't be dismissed as scum as if they are not human by people who know nothing about them
The end.

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

exactly.now back to the batter foodstuffs.....

 

[nlgbbbblth]

Hands up who knows what a wurley burger is?

A Curly Wurly deep fried?

 

[nlgbbbblth]

I had a battered creme egg a couple of years ago.

Bad idea.

 

[mazzyianne]

oooooooooooooo...
How could that be a bad idea?

 

[classic seanc]

Battered mars bars are a delicious and guilty pleasure. You'll be bouncing off the walls after one too.
I got them in some place off Lombard st. West, near the Early House there, (I used to work round there, not drink in the morn)


Filthy, wrong, deadly, mmmmmmmmmmmm!



Also, people can be pissed off for a reason. Grand. That doesn't necassarily mean that they are bad people, or indeed, that they are good people. But as I said at the start of the thread, I reserve the right to be pissed off with them.

 

[hugh]

A Curly Wurly deep fried?

I actually don't know. I'm always asking them about it in my local chipper when I'm drunk and then the next day I forget what they told me.

 

[classic seanc]

Its battered fish I think

 

[nofunchee]

it's a battered burger in a bun i think.

 

[therealjohnny]

I still see a lot of class snobbery on this thread.
I dont believe people are 'naturally' violent. I think they're pissed off. But with the guards probably rather than the oranges.
I have friends who, because of where they lived, used to get the shit kicked out of them all the time in the back of cop vans (at the age of about 15 or so). It happens all the time. If they had got a chance to get their own back I reckon they'd have gone for it.
I dont understand why people think you have to have a degree or have read loads of marx to be a pissed off member of the working class lashing out.
I'm not saying that a working class revolution has started and I think there is some wishful thinking going on among socialists and anarchists about what this riot means.
Still, i think these people were pissed off for a reason and shouldn't be dismissed as scum as if they are not human by people who know nothing about them
The end.

marriane:heart: 's skangers

 

[Buzzo]

I have heard countless tales of young poor dudes getting the living tar beaten out of them by the gardai.

I wonder why there's no CCTV in Garda stations. Genuinely.

 

[nofunchee]

Also, people can be pissed off for a reason. Grand. That doesn't necassarily mean that they are bad people, or indeed, that they are good people. But as I said at the start of the thread, I reserve the right to be pissed off with them.

from what i can gather people had a problem with the label scum/scummers/scumbags as a very class biased term in this context. the other side of the conversation then seemed to fall back on the defensive and maintain their right to vilify the rioters and call them scum on the grounds of the violent acts that they carried out.

i reckon that this defense is only partially acceptable. i mean i understand why people are pissed off and i wouldn't condone violence against other people unless it was in self-defense or whatever. However, i think the reaction of calls of scumbags and so on were also partially situated in prejudicial class-biased socialisation too. stereotyping is never helpful in serious and emotive situations. a few people have talked about personal expierences or court cases that they heard about involving 'scumbags' and while the people exampled in these cases are pricks you have to recognise that terms like 'scum' and so on have both literal and cultural definitions.

i'm not advocating some sort of crazy politically correct gone mad utopia or anything but i think it is helpful to recognise our own positions and prejudices. in my opinion we all have biases due to loads of different factors of socialisation, environment, expierences, gender, age, etc. it's a good idea to keep track of them.

 

[therealjohnny]

from what i can gather people had a problem with the label scum/scummers/scumbags as a very class biased term in this context. the other side of the conversation then seemed to fall back on the defensive and maintain their right to vilify the rioters and call them scum on the grounds of the violent acts that they carried out.

i reckon that this defense is only partially acceptable. i mean i understand why people are pissed off and i wouldn't condone violence against other people unless it was in self-defense or whatever. However, i think the reaction of calls of scumbags and so on were also partially situated in prejudicial class-biased socialisation too. stereotyping is never helpful in serious and emotive situations. a few people have talked about personal expierences or court cases that they heard about involving 'scumbags' and while the people exampled in these cases are pricks you have to recognise that terms like 'scum' and so on have both literal and cultural definitions.

i'm not advocating some sort of crazy politically correct gone mad utopia or anything but i think it is helpful to recognise our own positions and prejudices. in my opinion we all have biases due to loads of different factors of socialisation, environment, expierences, gender, age, etc. it's a good idea to keep track of them.

Dunchee :heart: Skangers

4 eva

 

[broken arm]

i think most people at the riot were bigots. all sides

 

[Buzzo]

i think most people at the riot were bigots. all sides

I think you're a bigot but you don't see me posting about it on thumped

 

[broken arm]

I think you're a bigot but you don't see me posting about it on thumped

I think you're a blah blah whatever