my bloody valentine 2013 (2 Viewers)

[David Kronenbourg]

Hammersmith show was fucking deadly last night lads. Fucking deadly.

 

[hermie]

Hammersmith show was fucking deadly last night lads. Fucking deadly.

Good stuff Bernie. Similar set to the one I described? I take it they rectified sound issues? Was it as loud as previous tours because Barrowlands certainly wasn't?

 

[David Kronenbourg]

Good stuff Bernie. Similar set to the one I described? I take it they rectified sound issues? Was it as loud as previous tours because Barrowlands certainly wasn't?

there didn't appear to be any sound issues. the vocals could have been a bit louder i guess. i don't have any reference pointhaving never seen them before but it was pretty loud in parts. it was just a seamless set. the new stuff sounded great live. wonder 2 worked beautifully after the holocaust section which was fucking gnarly.

 

[chutneyfarmer]

Mine arrived yesterday. Slight bend in one corner and slightly scuffed along the edge. Nothing that bothers me too much to be honest. Can't believe they didn't even shrinkwrap the things though!

 

[Stan Bowles]

Complained via the website and just received a mail back saying they're sending out a replacement, no mention of them wanting me to send the old copy back.

I'd say it costing them a fortune, I specifically stated that there was no damage to the packaging and it must have happened at the printing press. However the mail was a generic one saying that they are investigating the packing issues and this one will be securely packaged.

 

[dudley]

depends who the fault lies with, they may be using a third party to fulfil orders. can't quite see kev sitting there all night stuffing envelopes.
sold 40,000 copies supposedly, at 23 euro a pop. production costs are minimal, so they've made a fortune

 

[tim]

How much would production be as a matter of interest?

For 180g gatefold.

 

[Stan Bowles]

depends who the fault lies with, they may be using a third party to fulfil orders. can't quite see kev sitting there all night stuffing envelopes.
sold 40,000 copies supposedly, at 23 euro a pop. production costs are minimal, so they've made a fortune

It's undoubtedly a third party:

We're sorry to hear your package was damaged in the post, we're discussing the packaging issues with the fulfilment company.
We've passed your order details on to our distribution team and authorised them to send a replacement for you in extra-secure packaging, your replacement will be sent by the 15th March.

 

[mark]

How much would production be as a matter of interest?

For 180g gatefold.

DMS gives a price of £4595 for 2000 (including CD), so thats approx £2.30/unit. Obviouisly the price goes down the more you order so you get the picture. I imagine well under £2 per record.

 

[washingcattle]

I wonder will they finally give Alan McGee a few bob ?

 

[tim]

DMS gives a price of £4595 for 2000 (including CD), so thats approx £2.30/unit. Obviouisly the price goes down the more you order so you get the picture. I imagine well under £2 per record.

FUCK! I didn't think production costs were THAT low.

Factor in distribution fees, web store and packers and they are still making a nice bit of money I bet.

 

[Unicron]

FUCK! I didn't think production costs were THAT low.

Factor in distribution fees, web store and packers and they are still making a nice bit of money I bet.

Studio, gear, labour of the band.

 

[washingcattle]

Studio, gear, labour of the band.

probably a rake load of old legal costs for getting out of old international deals. It sounds like they had a nightmare time of it with their American representation.

 

[tim]

Studio, gear, labour of the band.

Roadies, drivers etc.

Supposedly Shieldser looks to be having more fun on stage these days.
Hopefully his vibes are good and he wants to get back into the studio this year.

 

[washingcattle]

Hopefully his vibes are good and he wants to get back into the studio this year.

I assume he lives in a recording studio.

 

[tim]

probably a rake load of old legal costs for getting out of old international deals. It sounds like they had a nightmare time of it with their American representation.

Could you elaborate on this?

Would Island be able to demand payment or anything since they probably financed a small percentage of what ended up on m b v.

 

[washingcattle]

I suppose it's possible. Kevin Shields talked about it in an interview. They briefly had to officially dissolve the band to get custody of the masters of Loveless I'm sure there's a link here somewhere.

 

[tim]

He had to leave the band to get out of the Island contract because essentially he IS the band in regards the records.
He obviously needs to support system of the other members having his back though to get things finished.

The thing regarding the Loveless and Isn't Anything masters was basically Sony being cunty and keeping the tapes hidden so that Shields would have to do the remasters from a different cheaper source. There were also changes in personal in the company that slowed things down a ton. I think it's all mentioned in a Pitchfork interview from around the time the remasters came out.

 

[dudley]

Studio, gear, labour of the band.

Think they bought or built their own studio in the mid-90's with Island money.

 

[east hastings]

He used to live in the studio during Loveless with "dozens of chinchillas"