Has Dublin lost its edge? (3 Viewers)

[pete]

Dublin's great in 88

 

[jonah]

Thats the year I was born!

 

[therealjohnny]

born in 88? :|



would you like a Werther's original?

 

[ann post]

My edge picture on page one really missed out on a lot of likes by not actually posting.

I feel cheated.

 

[Hector Grey]

Both those articles are a pile of shit. "young" people haven't a fucking clue, why would anyone think they're at the vanguard or creativity? Why would anyone want that? It's the old cunts who are to blame, the ones who either made so much money they couldn't give a fuck or the ones who were burnt out by the indifference. But seriously. Young people? Start up? Artisan fucking coffee. Cock off, you fucking idiots.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

You do have, for my money, world class theatre and film festivals.

 

[JohnnyRaz]

I do think Dublin is going the way of London though, in that no one can afford to live in the city centre except the mega rich and otherwise it's just a tourist zone where visitors stay in rented apartments and marvel at old buildings.

its a long way to go before that in fairness - on the northside anyway.

Una Mullally sez 'nothing interesting has happened in the dublin club scene since I stopped running a club night'

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

its a long way to go before that in fairness - on the northside anyway.

Una Mullally sez 'nothing interesting has happened in the dublin club scene since I stopped running a club night'

Right

These kids today don't get it

 

[GO]

If its "edgy" yer after....the midlands is where its at.

You'll feel plenty edgy walking down my street on a Friday night..and you'll also hear cutting edge music as you pass my gaf.

 

[JohnnyRaz]

If its "edgy" yer after....the midlands is where its at.

You'll feel plenty edgy walking down my street on a Friday night..and you'll also hear cutting edge music as you pass my gaf.

In all my years living in (at times some fairly hairy) parts of dublin Ive never felt the air of menance you get at 1230 in a midlands town.

 

[GO]

In all my years living in (at times some fairly hairy) parts of dublin Ive never felt the air of menance you get at 1230 in a midlands town.

I lived in the City centre for much of my life...and I can definitely concur with this statement.

I barely go outside after 11 at the weekends.

 

[therealjohnny]

"I don't like the look of those teenagers"

 

[washingcattle]

its a long way to go before that in fairness - on the northside anyway.

Una Mullally sez 'nothing interesting has happened in the dublin club scene since I stopped running a club night'

I wouldn't be so sure. Gentrification hasn't really happened to Dublin since Temple Bar turned into a tourist trap. By which I mean the areas of the south side that have artisan coffee shops now were always reasonably plush locations to begin with. If the money was there to gentrify anywhere, you'd definitely see it sweep through places like Phibsboro and north strand overnight.

Where I live is New Cross, it's got an art college in it, which is usually a good sign that the neighbourhood is dirt poor. It's five minutes walk from Millwall FC. As working class as it comes. In the last year it's suddenly got a lot of bullshit popping up all over it. We don't have a starbucks as yet so the second wave of gentrification (the really harmful one were the original small business's that predated the hipster places are gobbled up by corporate shit holes) hasn't really hit. It's a strange one to watch. You get places like this opening

The Job Centre bar's attempt to do gentrification ironically is an insult | Jane Elliott | Comment is free | theguardian.com

which on one hand is really none of The Guardians business and on the other hand the bar itself is an anathema to the locals not because of it's name (no one here gives a shit) but because it's Shoreditch style bar service (I.e unbelievably awful) in SE14.


Anyway what I'm saying is if and when the money starts to flow again the north side will be prime location for gentrification. At first you'll barely notice, then you'll think "this used to be a bit of a shit hole now look at it" and then that's it, that's when it's already over. That's when it's too late to turn back and you notice all those "est 1875" signs disappearing and being replaced with logos. If Dublin was anything like London then the north side would be about to become Shoreditch. Mark my words.

 

[pete]

Property supplement in last Friday's Indo had a bit about Mountjoy Square being the place to be.

 

[therealjohnny]

ugh

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

Mountjoy Square

It's lovely up there.

Handy for Chapter One and Seomra Spraoi.

 

[JohnnyRaz]

Property supplement in last Friday's Indo had a bit about Mountjoy Square being the place to be.

certainly seems to be if youre brazillian anyway. gazillians of brazillians in that neck of the woods.

 

[ann post]

I'd wager that if dublin does indeed have 'an edge' which can be sharpened or blunted, engaging with the Irish times is likely to do the latter.

 

[sleepy]

I wouldn't be so sure. Gentrification hasn't really happened to Dublin since Temple Bar turned into a tourist trap. By which I mean the areas of the south side that have artisan coffee shops now were always reasonably plush locations to begin with. If the money was there to gentrify anywhere, you'd definitely see it sweep through places like Phibsboro and north strand overnight.

Where I live is New Cross, it's got an art college in it, which is usually a good sign that the neighbourhood is dirt poor. It's five minutes walk from Millwall FC. As working class as it comes. In the last year it's suddenly got a lot of bullshit popping up all over it. We don't have a starbucks as yet so the second wave of gentrification (the really harmful one were the original small business's that predated the hipster places are gobbled up by corporate shit holes) hasn't really hit. It's a strange one to watch. You get places like this opening

The Job Centre bar's attempt to do gentrification ironically is an insult | Jane Elliott | Comment is free | theguardian.com

which on one hand is really none of The Guardians business and on the other hand the bar itself is an anathema to the locals not because of it's name (no one here gives a shit) but because it's Shoreditch style bar service (I.e unbelievably awful) in SE14.


Anyway what I'm saying is if and when the money starts to flow again the north side will be prime location for gentrification. At first you'll barely notice, then you'll think "this used to be a bit of a shit hole now look at it" and then that's it, that's when it's already over. That's when it's too late to turn back and you notice all those "est 1875" signs disappearing and being replaced with logos. If Dublin was anything like London then the north side would be about to become Shoreditch. Mark my words.

Stoneybatter seems to have gone pretty hipsterish what with the Lighthouse cinema and several byob venues in the area. Isn't that normally the first step towards gentrification?

 

[sleepy]

If its "edgy" yer after....the midlands is where its at.

You'll feel plenty edgy walking down my street on a Friday night..and you'll also hear cutting edge music as you pass my gaf.

In all my years living in (at times some fairly hairy) parts of dublin Ive never felt the air of menance you get at 1230 in a midlands town.

Also from the Irish Times:
A cultural wasteland? You’re wrong about the midlands