My teacher told me that Brits took all our trees for panelling in the houses of parliament.
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I dunno anything about cattle but and I could be wrong about the rest of this too but I think there is a relatively low entry bar for forestry at present. There might be some red tape to get through but you get free money to cover all of the set up costs. Higher grants for native trees etc. The catch is you have to commit to it long term, like 20 years or something. If you take the money and cut all down to graze cattle in a year or two they'll come looking for the money back. I think you have to pay for maintenance and chopping and stuff yourself but all going well you get plenty of money for the timber.
I did read something recently about the wood being used to build one of the cathedrals in the UK. I mean, it makes sense, what are the colonies for otherwise? Givvus your resources.My teacher told me that Brits took all our trees for panelling in the houses of parliament.
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a few years back, my BIL was looking at buying a house which came with 14 acres, most of it under commercial forestry. the estate agent spiel was quite detailed on how much the grant aid was worth per year and how much maintenance would cost. it was a 'look the house only has three bedrooms but you'll get X grand a year in grants' sort of spiel.There might be some red tape to get through but you get free money to cover all of the set up costs. Higher grants for native trees etc. The catch is you have to commit to it long term, like 20 years or something.
one of the issues with growing wood from coniferous stock in ireland is our climate is a little too good. it grows too fast - gappy growth rings means it doesn't have strength except in large stock. some of it goes to the construction industry, but it's grow it fast, sell it cheap stuff. not saying that there's not value in that, but given that coillte own or manage over 7% of the entire landmass of the country, an EBIDTA of €102m (to take 2019 as an example) ain't worth the ecological value of just turning that land to nature. IMHO.I think the view of forests as a crop is generally frowned upon by environmentalists despite wood been needed for many industries
There's a passage i saw in the annals or somewhere when i worked in teh library that stated that around 11-1200ish in Ireland you could travel from Derry to the Donegal coast limb from limb on the oak trees and the townload names kinda reflect that as you hit the west parts. I wish I could remember the book, i can remember the font like.i did donegal in that project, a lot of the middle of donegal took no time at all cos there's shag all there.
Just picturing the ancient Irish swinging majestically from tree to tree as they traversed the land. Like apes.There's a passage i saw in the annals or somewhere when i worked in teh library that stated that around 11-1200ish in Ireland you could travel from Derry to the Donegal coast limb from limb on the oak trees and the townload names kinda reflect that as you hit the west parts. I wish I could remember the book, i can remember the font like.
PARKLIFE!Coillte has nothing to do with national parks. The National Parks and Wildlife Service looks after those
I don't see the correlation between "EBIDTA of €102m" and "Ain't worth the ecological value," can you explain what you mean?one of the issues with growing wood from coniferous stock in ireland is our climate is a little too good. it grows too fast - gappy growth rings means it doesn't have strength except in large stock. some of it goes to the construction industry, but it's grow it fast, sell it cheap stuff. not saying that there's not value in that, but given that coillte own or manage over 7% of the entire landmass of the country, an EBIDTA of €102m (to take 2019 as an example) ain't worth the ecological value of just turning that land to nature. IMHO.
Oh right, so it is worth the ecological value then, just not the financial one. GRAND.if they were making a billion a year off such a large chunk of land, i would more readily accept the argument that this is an important industry. as they're making a smaller amount, i would forgo the money earned in favour of the land being used for ecological reasons rather than commercial reasons. rewilding 7% of the country is worth forfeiting that 100 million a year for, to me.
Considering how fucked the world is they are valuable indeedothers may disagree with me, for certain. and you'd probably make a decent fist of an argument that total turnover should be used, rather than profit, for their value to the irish economy.
Forestry as an industry or forests for the sake of natural areas and "rewilding" ? I think the view of forests as a crop is generally frowned upon by environmentalists despite wood been needed for many industries. Coillte probably views itself as more of an industry provider than a caretaker of national parks although it's both really. "Ireland destroyed it's forests" hhmmm historically I think some Irish forests were destroyed because they were considered hideouts for rebels or there was large demand for wood after the the fire of 1666 and ship building etc ?
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