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[ann post]

I thought that article was kinda illuminating - a bit like the walking versus driving calculation above

You think you're doing the climate a favour by growing your own veg, but you're not necessarily. When we built our (pretty big) raised beds we bought wood for them, plus put in a load of drains which meant a mini-digger and a couple of lorryloads of gravel. Also we have a polytunnel and a fruit cage. That's a lot of infrastructure

I kinda feel like you guys would actually remove a lot of food miles over time though, rather than like someone getting a lockdown project polytunnel that is now in a skip. I've a notion ye's are vegetarian to start with which could be wrong?

 

[egg_]

the link egg provided about the carbon footprint of beef; are they using CO2 equivalent figures for the methane output? thats something the farming lobby have been fudging massively for the last few years.

It actually says "CO2 equivalent" so yeah I guess so? The numbers are from the UN FAO

 

[egg_]

I kinda feel like you guys would actually remove a lot of food miles over time though, rather than like someone getting a lockdown project polytunnel that is now in a skip. I've a notion ye's are vegetarian to start with which could be wrong?

Ah yeah, ours is very much a long-term thing - Mrs. egg_ started off growing strawberries in our tiny backyard when we lived in Dublin in ~2000-2001, and has expanded from there. For the last 7 or 8 years we have more or less all our veg (and we eat an awful lot of veg) for a few months a year, plus some fruit and some things (like spuds) year-round ... though last summer was pretty terrible with all the rain. Kids were veggie for a while so we all were, but these days we eat a small bit of meat - once a week or fortnight-ish

 

[ann post]

I mean like granted theres a carbon cost there to setup - but i have neighbours that have patios the size of houses that they use three days a year, so while carbon counting someones vegetable project has some merit, in the scheme of lifestyles in Ireland it's 1000 times better use of the space than the LED uplit sim city shit i live next door to.

 

[ann post]

I just did a fact check on myself.
one of the nearby patios is over 100m2, UTM's place is somewhere around 90m2.
Verdict: True.

 

[magicbastarder]

I mean like granted theres a carbon cost there to setup - but i have neighbours that have patios the size of houses that they use three days a year, so while carbon counting someones vegetable project has some merit, in the scheme of lifestyles in Ireland it's 1000 times better use of the space than the LED uplit sim city shit i live next door to.

yeah, i had the same thought; the sort of people who grow their own veg would count gardening as a hobby very often, so you could 'offset' their CO2 from gardening against what their alternative hobby might otherwise be, even if it's non-food gardening.

in a sense, it's a hobby which inefficiently offsets CO2 compared to another hypothetical hobby which makes no attempt to offset CO2.

 

[ann post]

Those people I know just went Heli-skiing on another continent, second trip this year.
The first trip didn't have a helicopter.

One of them is vegan though so I'm the villan here.

 

[magicbastarder]

this got very little coverage; buried by the moscow shooting and all the other shit happening:

EU nature restoration laws face collapse as member states withdraw support

Brussels vote cancelled after it became clear law would not pass final stage with majority vote

www.theguardian.com

 

[nuke terrorist]

White phosphorus dropped by Israeli Defense Forces is destroying land including in South Lebanon.

Israel’s toxic legacy: Bombing southern Lebanon with white phosphorus

Scientists, historians point to a pattern in Israel’s white phosphorous use that destroyed swathes of southern Lebanon.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[pete]

Great work, everybody

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/15/climate/global-coral-reef-mass-bleaching-climate-hnk-intl/index.html

 

[magicbastarder]

Kinda surprised at how little coverage the issues farmers are having with recent weather is getting. Apparently we're in for big price hikes because farmers simply haven't been able to farm for months.

 

[egg_]

Kinda surprised at how little coverage the issues farmers are having with recent weather is getting. Apparently we're in for big price hikes because farmers simply haven't been able to farm for months.

Times like this I'm v happy we don't depend solely on Irish agriculture ...

 

[Reets]

During the fodder crisis about 10 years ago, the suicide rates where we lived went up. It bankrupted some people and was just generally a shit time to be a farmer.

 

[magicbastarder]

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