Water Charges (1 Viewer)

[therealjohnny]

So...if I am walking down this street I need to cross over to the other side of the road ..

or face legal consequences?

 

[therealjohnny]

Does "persons having knowledge of this order" refer to people who have been served with an injunction?

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

Anyone at the march yesterday?

Seems like a big turnout.

 

[Scientician 0.8]

Colleague in work claims the Vote No To Show The Gubbermint faction is gaining traction on social media. Is there anything in it? Sounds like a way of marginalising and delegitimising all protesters.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

Mad outburst from Pat Rabbitte there last night

Defo in response to the Morning Ireland interview the other morning where they grilled your wan from Irish Water

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

Is it just me or is the government looking like winning this? I guess bills on doormats will tell.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

Is it just me or is the government looking like winning this? I guess bills on doormats will tell.

People are gonna pay. FG/FF/Lab still have majority support.

I can't see a climbdown.
But who knows?

 

[therealjohnny]

I think our natural cowardice and deference to authority will mean most people will pay

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

I think our natural cowardice and deference to authority will mean most people will pay

Right

And continuing to frame the protesters as scumbags and lunatics means that 'regular' people will want to dissociate themselves from that group.
Hopefully something will come from the next election though.

 

[Scientician 0.8]

Homophobic scumbags and lunatics.

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

Right

And continuing to frame the protesters as scumbags and lunatics means that 'regular' people will want to dissociate themselves from that group.
Hopefully something will come from the next election though.

In fairness, some sections of the protestors have made that framing easy.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

In fairness, some sections of the protestors have made that framing easy.

For the lazy, yes.
I have literally hundreds of FB photos from friends and family at protests, and they are all smiles on all and sundry.

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

For the lazy, yes.
I have literally hundreds of FB photos from friends and family at protests, and they are all smiles on all and sundry.

Well, the larger protests are generally peaceful affairs, it's the blocking of workers (mixed with talk of assaults and threats) and general stopping of people going about their business that makes it that much handier to say - these people are crazy.
The government climbing in the polls makes it seem that, although people may not agree with the 'crazy protestor' narrative, they are accepting of the need for charges. I think if the government pledged to keep Irish Water as a public concern and guaranteed increases only in line with inflation they could effectively end the battle overnight.

 

[nooleen]

they are accepting of the need for charges.

sure i could go around demanding money for water from people because 'there's a need for charges', they'd obviously be complete idiots to give it to me and expect me to fix the infrastructure though

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

sure i could go around demanding money for water from people because 'there's a need for charges', they'd obviously be complete idiots to give it to me and expect me to fix the infrastructure though

Obviously. You're not a government with the ability to repair/replace an antiquated infrastructure though.

 

[nooleen]

that was exactly my point. there's zero reason to have any faith in the ability of the government to get it done either.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

Well, the larger protests are generally peaceful affairs, it's the blocking of workers (mixed with talk of assaults and threats) and general stopping of people going about their business that makes it that much handier to say - these people are crazy.
The government climbing in the polls makes it seem that, although people may not agree with the 'crazy protestor' narrative, they are accepting of the need for charges. I think if the government pledged to keep Irish Water as a public concern and guaranteed increases only in line with inflation they could effectively end the battle overnight.

I think the poll numbers are to do with the general/small improvement in jobs and peoples pay packets.
That is all the majority votes on at the end of the day.

 

[Cormcolash]

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[7 - No tomorrow]

I like the cut of his jib

 

[therealjohnny]

Every time he says something intelligent someone comes along to mention his connections to Enron