US Presidential Elections 2008 (2 Viewers)

some poll today had them at 43 mccain 45 obama. i reckon these 12 point lead polls are rubbish. it will definately be a tight finish. obama already talking about being president:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/oct/23/uselections2008-barackobama


i'v got a bad feeling about this...

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NPR has Obama on 273 college votes excluding OH, FL, VA, NC which it classes as tossups.

ie looking at states that are Blue or leaning substantially Blue Obama is already over the line.

If McCain wins all of the 91 EC votes still classed as a tossup it still doens't get him over the line - he needs to whip a couple of Blueish states too.
 
NPR has Obama on 273 college votes excluding OH, FL, VA, NC which it classes as tossups.

ie looking at states that are Blue or leaning substantially Blue Obama is already over the line.

If McCain wins all of the 91 EC votes still classed as a tossup it still doens't get him over the line - he needs to whip a couple of Blueish states too.
He's putting alot of effort into Penselvania. A huge amount of ground to make up but you'd never know. Still, it's Obama's to lose.
 
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Friday, October 24, 2008

Former counter-terrorism czar Richard Clarke told CNN yesterday that Osama Bin Laden would attempt to influence the 2008 U.S. election with a terrorist attack or the release of a video tape, an October surprise to replicate that of 2004 when Bin Laden swung the election for Bush.

“At the moment, as far as I can tell, the FBI, other intelligence agencies, do not have any credible information that would lead them to believe an attack might take place. Why are we asking this, though?” said Clarke.

“Because in 2004, bin Laden did try to influence the US election. Whether or not he succeeded, who knows? But he issued a video tape on Halloween, a few days before the election, that implied that he supported Senator Kerry.”

“He knew, that if he seemed to be supporting Senator Kerry, that would help President Bush. And it did.”

“So, we know he likes to try to influence elections,” said Clarke. “So, we can look forward to perhaps another video tape like that, or an attack. But an attack is a heck of a lot harder for them to stage than the easy job of putting out a video tape.”

The CNN panel highlighted the fact that federal law enforcement officials were less worried about an Al-Qaeda attack than they were about a “lone wolf” American because “50 per cent of the country was going to be pissed off on election day either way”.

Host Rick Sanchez read from an alleged Al-Qaeda affiliated website which stated that if an attack took place, it would be in support of McCain.

Both John Kerry and George W. Bush attributed Bush’s 2004 success to a video tape featuring Bin Laden that was released days before voters went to the polls. Veteran news broadcaster Walter Cronkite called the tape a Karl Rove-orchestrated set up.

As we wrote on the eve of the vote four years ago, “Bush’s poll numbers have been significantly boosted and this will be enough to win him re-election.”

Bin Laden’s chastisement of Bush resulted in a 6 point swing, enabling Bush to seal a second term in office.

Who will the finger of suspicion point to should we witness the emergence of yet another dubious Bin Laden tape or a catastrophic event linked with Al-Qaeda?

Consider the comments of one of McCain’s top advisors, Charlie Black, who in June said that a terror attack on American soil would be a “big advantage” to McCain’s election hopes. Black added that last December’s assassination of Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto had helped McCain to win the New Hampshire primary, a state he had to win to save his candidacy.

The “chatter” surrounding the probable entrance of Bin Laden or Al-Qaeda to impact the election is widespread.

According to a New York Sun report, in August America’s military and intelligence agencies intercepted messages indicating that “Al-Qaeda” was planning to launch operations to coincide with the November election.

Earlier this month, the L.A. Times speculated that the recent incursions into Pakistan are aimed at capturing Bin Laden before Bush leaves office.

The report coincided with pulitzer prize winning journalist Bob Woodward’s admission to CNN’s Larry King that the U.S. had devised a new secret weapon in the war on terror. “We’ll see - maybe they can use it on Bin Laden and all of a sudden the September or October surprise is gonna be the apprehension or the death of Bin Laden,” Woodward said.

The fact that the media is hyping the inevitability of an “October surprise” should be cause for concern, especially when allied to reports of police departments across the country “preparing for possible civil unrest and riots” in the aftermath of the election.
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Paul Joseph Watson said:
[FONT=arial, helvetica]. Both the Clinton and Bush administrations protected Osama bin Laden and the Al-Qaeda network before September 11;

. The highest levels of the US government were complicit in the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon;

. Many of the named 9/11 'suicide hijackers' are still alive and the real culprits have never been officially identified;

. British MI5 have infiltrated the IRA and are carrying out terrorist attacks to maintain a divided Ireland;

. Chaos mongers are arming tyrants worldwide as a pretext for endless war and empire building;

. A despotic New World Order is being constructed, how it threatens us all and what we can do to stop it.


Not sure how reliable that Watson dude is.

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He has this habbit of divining peoples (ie governments) intentions from the outcome of their actions. It pre-supposes the ability to organise a pissup in a brewery.


and right there you have the most devastating argument against conspiracies there is.

A lot of these lads are so eager to get their dicks sucked by Jesus and pay off their coke debts and hookers, they haven't got time to read the shit they're voting on, let alone keep the lid on that Lesbian Alien inter dimensional sniper rifle that shot the bullet that took out JFK.


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Fucking hell.

All hell has just broken loose outside the office.
Is NYC being bombeded?
 
I think the same part of the brain that encourages people to believe in God, encourages people to believe in conspiracies, and might have something to do with how you got on with your parents / teachers / authority figures when you were a child.

There exists some need for some higher control by some people.
They want to believe that there is an order to the universe, that something or someone is in charge at some point.

The idea that we might live in a chaotic universe, where random events have profound outcomes, scares the crap out of them.

That's what I think.

I would appreciate if someone would send me a PhD in.... Sociology say.
Thnx.


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Flashy.

(edit) NY seems to be grand by the way, just noisy.

If you were worried like.
 

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