I think I'd rather hang out with three of the four Corrs
Jim is just one person Seanc.
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I think I'd rather hang out with three of the four Corrs
Meh. I expect it's mostly cos of the shared language. It's not just the brits - last time I was at electric picnic all the not-top-of-the-bill comedians spent most of their time talking about US politics.I still see mostly English newspapers at every newsagent, Sky on in every pub, stories about English politics on Irish news. Tell me what's happening in France and Germany, countries I'm in a goddamn union with. But they put this shit on cos we care what happens in England and we don't care what happens in France. Cos deep down, we identify with the English. We see ourselves in them.
Meh. I expect it's mostly cos of the shared language. It's not just the brits - last time I was at electric picnic all the not-top-of-the-bill comedians spent most of their time talking about US politics.
I think I'd rather hang out with three of the four Corrs than with Mark E Smith, but that's for that other thread.
U2 and the Corrs are exports though, it's a different topic
Just give me one radio story on RTE about the north for every one I get on the UK covid inquiry or Tory leadership back-and-forths or any other irrelevant bullshit happening over thereMeh. I expect it's mostly cos of the shared language. It's not just the brits - last time I was at electric picnic all the not-top-of-the-bill comedians spent most of their time talking about US politics.
Bad news for youDown here I watched Munster play some french team, Leinster played some other french team, the provincial club GAA was big news. That golf lad who sold out to the Saudis was news. Them swimming lads. Went to two golf award things.
There was a big trad sesh as well.
And yes, the EPL was there in the background the whole time, but no more than a side note for anyone here. Everyone cared far more about two villages in Ulster and two villages in Munster than they did about the big soccerball clubs where I actually work. We're in Connaught.
If you can get DW, France 24 or NHK, they are about a billion times better than Sky or BBCSky News has always been really UK / US orientated and is a waste of time.
Only really Al Jazeera reports the WORLD news of the 24 news channels.
It's pretty hard to untangle what Irish culture is beyond the obvious bits - music, dance, language, art, literature, education, sports- tweed and smallholding aren't really easy to fit into the modern world like the would have been. I'm probably missing a lot.
My skewed view on it is stuff that came with the celtic culture is a lot of what we identify with and what is considered british sits somewhere between the roman era and the anglo saxon stuff.
Was staggered with how much Welsh I heard spoken when I was in Angelsea this yearWhich seems different to the very sincere efforts to bring it back in Wales
Was staggered with how much Welsh I heard spoken when I was in Angelsea this year
Just people walking about
Mad jealous of them
There has been a huge Welsh language music scene for decades.Was staggered with how much Welsh I heard spoken when I was in Angelsea this year
Just people walking about
Mad jealous of them
I am a pretty stupid and only manage one language.Happy to blame the state to a point
But we have to accept some of this ourselves
We don't learn Irish, and we don't learn European languages to a level you might expect given our longstanding EU membership
There's a laziness factor here at some level.
The people who continued to speak irish largely were in traditionally poorer areas so youths would have been more likely to leave the gaeltacht in the routine reccessions / famine events.
Conversly
I was in a room full of people recently, all dubs born and bred and they all had great Irish.
Irish politics and governance for the most part consists of:Point is that we're very softened to the English and their ways.
Yuval Harari reckons culture is the story we tell each other.
Every single day, we choose the stories the English tell themselves about themselves.
A lot of Ireland shops in English shops, follows English football teams, doggedly follow English politics, watch English TV stations, English TV shows, read English newspapers, watch English news, go to see English comedians, hear English voices on Irish radio advertisements and and all the rest of it. I mean it's almost neverending.
A lot of our choice of culture is that of a foreign country, a foreign culture.
Ireland is choosing every day to be more English. Like a dog that thinks it's people.
We'll jump down someone foreign's throat for asking if Ireland is in the UK, but culturally, we are desperately so.
We don't make the distinction ourselves in our daily lives.
To the point where Belfast seems more exotic to Dubs than London.
And all the while the English fuck us over hard on Brexit, the Legacy bill and could not give two single fucks about us in the micro or the macro.
I think it's hilarious that we have this glaring national blindspot about how very very English the country has become and it's almost never talked about.
I mean on the plus side, it might give the Unionists a little more comfort on a United Ireland, but fuck me, was it for this?
TL;DR Innit?
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