Kevin Myers is back on form (1 Viewer)

[Buzzo]

Head, meet desk. Desk, head.

*thwack*

 

[Wheels]

LEAVE KEVIN ALONE!!!

He's not well right now!

 

[Mormon Nailer]

Africans are more susceptible to HIV according to:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/jul/17/hiv.aids

I read something as well that the practice of having a small number of long term sexual partners is also spreads the virus very effectively.

It's kind of counter intuitive that having 2 or 3 concurrent long term partners would be worse than lots of random casual sex but apparently so.

 

[Unicron]

I read something as well that the practice of having a small number of long term sexual partners is also spreads the virus very effectively.

It's kind of counter intuitive that having 2 or 3 concurrent long term partners would be worse than lots of random casual sex but apparently so.

What is actual likelyhood of infection in having unprotected sex with someone that's infected on a once of basis? It's not like if you do it then you'll definately catch it off them is it? I just realised I have no clue about that.

I suppose the reason why the number of long term partners is more risky is because if one person has it the more times someone sleeps with them it increases the likelyhood that they're going to catch it. And so on and so on.

 

[wild_cat]

What is actual likelyhood of infection in having unprotected sex with someone that's infected on a once of basis? It's not like if you do it then you'll definately catch it off them is it? I just realised I have no clue about that.

I suppose the reason why the number of long term partners is more risky is because if one person has it the more times someone sleeps with them it increases the likelyhood that they're going to catch it. And so on and so on.

Well if Larry Clark films are anything to go by...

 

[Diddles]

Lookit, I won't have a word said against this man. He's incredible.

 

[maims bond]

Press Council upholds complaint against Myers article



CAROL COULTER, Legal Affairs Editor
The Press Council of Ireland has upheld a complaint against the Irish Independent that an article by its columnist Kevin Myers breached its Code of Practice relating to incitement to hatred.[FONT=&quot]
[/FONT]The article, entitled "Africa is giving nothing to anyone - apart from Aids", was published on July 10th, 2008. Hans Zomer, director of Dóchas, the association of NGOs, complained about the article to the Press Council, on the grounds that it breached four principles of the code: Principles 1 (Accuracy), 3 (Fairness and Honesty), 4 (Respect for Rights) and 8 (Incitement to Hatred). He, along with another complainant, said it was inaccurate and untruthful and it promoted harmful, inaccurate and dangerous stereotypes of all Africa's peoples.[FONT=&quot]
[/FONT]The case was referred to the full Press Council by John Horgan, the Press Ombudsman, as a complex or significant case. The Press Council is made up of representatives of the press and of Irish society, and is chaired by Prof Thomas Mitchell, former provost of Trinity College.[FONT=&quot]
[/FONT]The newspaper replied, in a detailed legal submission of over 100 pages, stating that although the article contained radical opinions and expressed convictions that might readily be described as inflammatory and outrageous, its publication was in accordance with the principle of freedom of expression enshrined in the Irish Constitution and in Irish law.[FONT=&quot]
[/FONT]It argued that freedom of expression included the right to say things which right-thinking people regarded as dangerous or irresponsible; that the complainants had distorted the columnist's arguments; and that the statements in the article were true and accurate in the facts upon which it was premised.[FONT=&quot]
[/FONT]It pointed out that it had published shortly afterwards an article by Mr Zomer challenging the views expressed in the article.[FONT=&quot]
[/FONT]In its ruling, the Press Council stated: "The question at issue in this case relates to the appropriate boundaries of the right of freedom of expression in respect of comment and analysis in newspapers.[FONT=&quot]
[/FONT]"The Press Council fully accepts that comment and analysis are an integral and valuable aspect of the function of newspapers, and represent the area within the corpus of a newspaper where freedom of thought and expression are properly given their widest scope."[FONT=&quot]
[/FONT]It continued by stating that the same broad boundaries which limit all freedoms must apply to freedom of expression, including comment in the press. True freedom "can only flourish when it has regard for the rights of others and for the common good", it said.[FONT=&quot]
[/FONT]"Modern societies that respect the law adhere to these principles and seek to give expression to them in law. They apply to the press . . . as a medium of comment as well as of information."[FONT=&quot]
[/FONT]The Code of Practice supplements the law and seeks to define more precisely the ethical and professional standards that should govern good journalism, it said. It recognises that the freedom to comment, a central aspect of freedom of expression, has limits, and it seeks to define them, most specifically in Principle 8.[FONT=&quot]
[/FONT]The council acknowledged that the article dealt with serious issues and highlighted tragic conditions prevailing in many parts of Africa. But, it said, beginning with the headline, the mode of presentation "was marked by rhetorical extravagance and hyperbole which used the failings of some to stigmatise whole societies, employing a level of generalisation that was distorting and seriously insulting to Africans as a whole".[FONT=&quot]
[/FONT]"The article resorted, in several instances, to language that was gratuitously offensive and was, in the view of the Press Council, likely to cause grave offence to people throughout sub-Saharan Africa and to the many Africans . . . who are now resident in Ireland."[FONT=&quot]
[/FONT]It concluded that the article breached Principle 8 of the code, in that it was likely to cause grave offence. It did not, however, find reason to conclude that it was likely to stir up hatred or that it intended to do so. It did not make findings in relation to the complaints under other principles.[FONT=&quot]
[/FONT]© 2008 The Irish Times[FONT=&quot][/FONT]

 

[Vinnie]

Typical liberals. Cant handle the ravings a bitter hate-filled madman

 

[broken arm]

Press Council upholds complaint against Myers article

what next?

 

[pete]

what next?

A highly entertaining rebuke from Myers, one hopes.

 

[hugh]

A highly entertaining rebuke from Myers, one hopes.

Does anyone actually find him funny or entertaining though? I mean let's take it as a given that he's an asshole and his politics are pretty reprehensible. Is he entertaining though? I would say no ..... he's not funny.

Look at Pj O'Rourke. His politics are dreadful also but .. I'll read his stuff because he's funny. Myers isn't. He's just annoying or boring.

Oh yeah: I did encounter him once at a book reading by Redmond O'Hanlon. If you don't know who Redmond O'Hanlon is ignore the rest of this because it won't make any sense. Anyway, O'Hanlon talked about going on the batter with Pat Kenny last time he was in Dublin, to the amazement of most people in the audience. Later, when he was taking questions I asked him if he had decided where he was going on his next trip and if he had found a travel companion to accompany him. Myers was sitting up the front and piped up "You should bring Pat Kenny!". Given the context, that was kind-of funny ....

 

[Vinnie]

Does anyone actually find him funny or entertaining though? I mean let's take it as a given that he's an asshole and his politics are pretty reprehensible. Is he entertaining though? I would say no ..... he's not funny.

Tracking his steady decline into abject madness is sort of entertaining.

 

[Mormon Nailer]

Tracking his steady decline into abject madness is sort of entertaining.

To be fair he used to be a good satirist.
It's a long while back though.

 

[Vinnie]

To be fair he used to be a good satirist.
It's a long while back though.

He used to provoke a decent debate alright but the modernisation of Ireland has left him with nothing to write about save his own prejudices.

 

[therealjohnny]

hammer on the nail

 

[JohnnyRaz]

A highly entertaining rebuke from Myers, one hopes.

nah, just a standard 'one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind' type rant

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/c...to-make-me-appear-a-racist-bigot-1504138.html

 

[JohnnyRaz]

nah, just a standard 'one eyed man in the kingdom of the blind' type rant

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/c...to-make-me-appear-a-racist-bigot-1504138.html

and speaking of one eyed hairy blinks;

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/c...on-discovers-a-new-shaving-grace-1488559.html

like the little anti muslim bit at the end. tactful

 

[flashback]

and speaking of one eyed hairy blinks;

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/c...on-discovers-a-new-shaving-grace-1488559.html

like the little anti muslim bit at the end. tactful

Christ.
I feel dirty having exposed my LAN to that.
Is he on hormone replacement therapy or what. He appears to be about 13 years old at the moment.
Badgers?
Fucking hell.
Imagine he was your old man.

 

[Vinnie]

Christ.

Imagine he was your old man.

"Son, you're giving nothing to this house except AIDS"

 

[flashback]

"Son, you're giving nothing to this house except AIDS"

You'd probably keep on walking in on him masturbating frantically to a Debenham's catalog.

Ah Jesus Dad.
And will you take down that fucking Girls Aloud poster from over the fireplace?