Good Riddance - A Thread About the News of the World (1 Viewer)

[SomethingManic]

So this Sunday will be their last edition.

Thank God.

It's a porn mag, for God sake.

 

[xrockridgex]

Now I can boycott a Murdoch Sunday paper for it lying over Hillsborough and causing the Falklands war rather then for destroying the lives of crime and terrorism victims. RESULT!

 

[CinnamonBoy]

So this Sunday will be their last edition.

Thank God.

It's a porn mag, for God sake.

Fairly shite porn mags you've been buying SM...

Don't see what shutting down the paper will really achieve and I thought some of their stings over the years were quite beneficial.
The phone hacking is unbelievably not cool though.

 

[ann post]

i wonder will nipper get reinstated.

 

[Theseus Mock]

One of the most important lessons out of all this is that mobile operators need to stop using default passcodes on their voicemail systems. It should be randomly chosen for each user & at least 5-digits long.

 

[pete]

And also hire staff that won't sell their customers' pin codes or fall for basic social engineering ploys.

 

[MilanPan!c]

Most likely the NOTW was shut down to stymie criminal investigations. The first victims were the people who's privacy was raped; the second is now all the employees who's lives have been screwed up to protect those at the top.

I see no reason to feel any joy. Murdoch still will publish his crap, the chance of any real changes coming due to this is minimal and a lot of folks just lost their job.

Grrrr...

 

[ann post]

...the second is now all the employees who's lives have been screwed up to protect those at the top.

A lot of those employees were journalists supposedly, and yet none of them managed to break a story this big that was happening in the same room as them. They had something that big, in their lap for years.. by all accounts it seems to be common knowledge within closed doors. my conclusion would be that they are shit journalists anyways.

 

[JohnnyRaz]

A lot of those employees were journalists supposedly, and yet none of them managed to break a story this big that was happening in the same room as them. They had something that big, in their lap for years.. by all accounts it seems to be common knowledge within closed doors. my conclusion would be that they are shit journalists anyways.

i wonder what proportion of the staff in newspapers are actually journos in the propper sense of the word? as oposed to more general office admin etc. also printers and associated trades are going to get hit.

 

[ann post]

i wonder what proportion of the staff in newspapers are actually journos in the propper sense of the word?

none.

 

[JohnnyRaz]

none.

i mean in terms of sourcing and producing copy - even though for the NOTW that probably involved a lot of copying and pasting

 

[ann post]

i mean in terms of sourcing and producing copy

well if none of them broke the biggest story in the entire of history of the paper, i'm sticking by 'none' as an answer.
here's how i see it; a lot of folk in that paper knew that practice was going on - they had two options 1. turn a blind eye. 2. write about it/call the cops.
they all opted for 1.

the story becomes public, once again they have two options:

1. walk out of the paper in solidarity with peoples privacy/respect of their trade.
2. stay there and hope it all blows over.

the majority opted for 2.

I was talking to an electrician the other day, he said if there was ever anyone interfering with his job on site it became a serious risk and he would leave the site till the time the site manager got that person out of the way, so nobody would get electrocuted. I dont see why that logic shouldnt be applied here.

 

[MilanPan!c]

A lot of those employees were journalists supposedly, and yet none of them managed to break a story this big that was happening in the same room as them. They had something that big, in their lap for years.. by all accounts it seems to be common knowledge within closed doors. my conclusion would be that they are shit journalists anyways.

So, if you wrote an entertainment column for NOTW, maybe worked there for a decade, and then get sacked with no notice in a move that protects the bosses, that's grand, because as a NEWSpaper they suck???

I don't know... seems a bit more complex to me...

 

[MilanPan!c]

Phone hacking: Police probe suspected deletion of emails by NI executive
• 'Massive quantities' of archive allegedly deleted
• Emails believed to be between News of the World editors

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/08/phone-hacking-emails-news-international

 

[ann post]

So, if you wrote an entertainment column for NOTW, maybe worked there for a decade, and then get sacked with no notice in a move that protects the bosses, that's grand, because as a NEWSpaper they suck???

I don't know... seems a bit more complex to me...

explain "complex"? - that seems very vague to me. You could mean a lot of different things by that.

 

[magicbastarder]

http://www.spectator.co.uk/essays/7075673/what-the-papers-wont-say.thtml

 

[MilanPan!c]

explain "complex"? - that seems very vague to me. You could mean a lot of different things by that.

Complex in that, I see a lot of people gloating about the NOTW being closed... from a ideological perspective... which would be ok if it's closure had anything to do with ideology.

It doesn't.

Murdoch has done this, not as a favour, but to protect himself and his business.

So...

What's the REAL impact?

Less tabloid journalism? For a few weeks maybe.

Lot's of innocent folks losing their jobs, so that Murdoch can protect his business interests? Yep.

Gloating should be reserved for, at best, a victory. This is not a victory for anyone other than Murdoch and a few of his executives.

 

[MilanPan!c]

http://www.spectator.co.uk/essays/7075673/what-the-papers-wont-say.thtml

@Glinner tweeted this yesterday.. a VERY good read.

 

[ann post]

from myspace

(yes myspace)

"I'm going to buy a copy of the News of the World this Sunday.I've lost my phone and need to pick up my voicemails."

 

[Unknown Convict]

Murdoch has done this, not as a favour, but to protect himself and his business.

act of cowardice. once NOTW is gone, they can legally start to shred the evidence in the absence of a court order.