the pyrate dead
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sorry bout the length of this!
over the last while, ive seen and taken part in a lot of discussions about various gig things, and wanted to bring some of them up, first off, im NOT in anyway bitching, or relating this thread to particular gigs that i put on, i just wanted to find out peoples opinions on things to make people life easier when putting on future gigs.
time-how come people dont come out any earlier than 10 or so? the first band playing are rarely watched, the first bands can often be the most interesting ones that you probably havnt seen before? what is thought of the different price for after 9? its unfortunately a necessity at the moment, but what do people make of it, would it encourage anyone to turn up earlier?
money-what do people think about prices? in my humble opinion, they need to go up for touring bands, but i know people wont like that idea. often the gigs in other counties in ireland can have small attendance, and the same can sometimes be found here, considering all the costs of van hire, petrol, ferrys etc, touring ireland can be a huge added expense to a band on tour what with the amount of gigs available. some gigs literally need to be around 8-10euros to cover band expenses, especially if there is more than one touring band on the bill, im not saying this is what price it is going to be, just wondering what others think. money for the venue, p.a. rental, taxis, posters etc also adds up alot. on the other hand im aware that alot of people just wont come out at all if the gig is a couple of euros more expensive.
another thing about raising prices is that if the gig is all ages, teenagers cant afford to go at all. what about a different lower price for people under 18? they go to school and live off pocket money which doesnt stretch that far, and as im sure everyone is aware, there are not very many younger folk around at gigs, it would be nice to see more.
lastly in the money department, please please dont drink outside the venue untill last band so you can get in free, this really effects things badly. i understand why, and am sure its a very tempting idea, but the 7euros it cost to buy a six pack of beer to drink outside the gig would really really help the promoter to cover costs. promoters lose alot of money sometimes just to put a band on, which i dont think enough people take into account.
cans-everyone knows what im gonna say here allready. i am guilty of drinking many cans at gigs. one thing that i will say though is, obviosly for gigs to remain in good venues, they need to make a little at the bar, so maybe if the gig is very badly attended, and you can only see two people with pints, and you want a beer, could you afford to buy a pint and have your cans after? if you are gonna drink em, at least clean up after yerselves and be subtle.
posters etc-what ways do people think gigs should be advertised? what ways can the gigs be pushed to people that arnt just our mates? postering is a hard and disapointing affair these days, with things being covered over before they've been seen once, but do people notice them when they are up? what kind of things/places do you tend to notice on a walk around town? do you ever go looking for posters? or is the internet our only tool here? does the look of a poster/flyer effect your opinion if you dont know the bands?
lastly, and i hope this wont be taken in a negative way at all, cause its not ment in one, but with the beginning of a fortnightly club, if a touring band contacts someone and has only the friday available in dublin, and there was a club/gig the night before...not critisising at all, just wondering if people have considered how hard two gig weeks are to both attend as a spectator or to promote, should this be worried about or am i reading to much into things? (i am however delighted that there will be a regular good night out, nice one for coming together on that!)
and is there anything else people want to talk about?
over the last while, ive seen and taken part in a lot of discussions about various gig things, and wanted to bring some of them up, first off, im NOT in anyway bitching, or relating this thread to particular gigs that i put on, i just wanted to find out peoples opinions on things to make people life easier when putting on future gigs.
time-how come people dont come out any earlier than 10 or so? the first band playing are rarely watched, the first bands can often be the most interesting ones that you probably havnt seen before? what is thought of the different price for after 9? its unfortunately a necessity at the moment, but what do people make of it, would it encourage anyone to turn up earlier?
money-what do people think about prices? in my humble opinion, they need to go up for touring bands, but i know people wont like that idea. often the gigs in other counties in ireland can have small attendance, and the same can sometimes be found here, considering all the costs of van hire, petrol, ferrys etc, touring ireland can be a huge added expense to a band on tour what with the amount of gigs available. some gigs literally need to be around 8-10euros to cover band expenses, especially if there is more than one touring band on the bill, im not saying this is what price it is going to be, just wondering what others think. money for the venue, p.a. rental, taxis, posters etc also adds up alot. on the other hand im aware that alot of people just wont come out at all if the gig is a couple of euros more expensive.
another thing about raising prices is that if the gig is all ages, teenagers cant afford to go at all. what about a different lower price for people under 18? they go to school and live off pocket money which doesnt stretch that far, and as im sure everyone is aware, there are not very many younger folk around at gigs, it would be nice to see more.
lastly in the money department, please please dont drink outside the venue untill last band so you can get in free, this really effects things badly. i understand why, and am sure its a very tempting idea, but the 7euros it cost to buy a six pack of beer to drink outside the gig would really really help the promoter to cover costs. promoters lose alot of money sometimes just to put a band on, which i dont think enough people take into account.
cans-everyone knows what im gonna say here allready. i am guilty of drinking many cans at gigs. one thing that i will say though is, obviosly for gigs to remain in good venues, they need to make a little at the bar, so maybe if the gig is very badly attended, and you can only see two people with pints, and you want a beer, could you afford to buy a pint and have your cans after? if you are gonna drink em, at least clean up after yerselves and be subtle.
posters etc-what ways do people think gigs should be advertised? what ways can the gigs be pushed to people that arnt just our mates? postering is a hard and disapointing affair these days, with things being covered over before they've been seen once, but do people notice them when they are up? what kind of things/places do you tend to notice on a walk around town? do you ever go looking for posters? or is the internet our only tool here? does the look of a poster/flyer effect your opinion if you dont know the bands?
lastly, and i hope this wont be taken in a negative way at all, cause its not ment in one, but with the beginning of a fortnightly club, if a touring band contacts someone and has only the friday available in dublin, and there was a club/gig the night before...not critisising at all, just wondering if people have considered how hard two gig weeks are to both attend as a spectator or to promote, should this be worried about or am i reading to much into things? (i am however delighted that there will be a regular good night out, nice one for coming together on that!)
and is there anything else people want to talk about?
. Both venues i run gigs at have Fosters for €3 which is cool. 
