Coronavirus: Better Call Sol - CORONAMANIA (4 Viewers)

Don't know I was thinking the UK might go over the thousand mark this week and then into multiple thousands in the next but they seem to be holding out luckily enough so far.
 
I think it's important that we consider this less as a pandemic virus outbreak and more of an opportunity to strengthen Kathryn Thomas's brand

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Loving watching the pricks whose entire livelihood is about passing misery onto others for a profit tying themselves in knots finding roundabout ways to tell countries to kill their old because the economy.


Jacob Wallenberg has warned governments to weigh the economic threat from coronavirus more heavily or risk depression, social unrest and a potential lost generation.

The Swedish industrialist, whose family investment vehicle has controlling stakes in companies from telecoms equipment maker Ericsson to bank SEB, told the Financial Times that policymakers must protect the vulnerable but not lose sight of the impact of containment measures on businesses, from neighbourhood restaurants to multinationals.

If the crisis goes on for long, unemployment could hit 20-30 per cent while economies could contract by 20-30 per cent, he warned.

“There will be no recovery. There will be social unrest. There will be violence. There will be socio-economic consequences: dramatic unemployment. Citizens will suffer dramatically: some will die, others will feel awful,” he added.

His warning comes as country after country has closed schools and locked down large parts of society, leading to plummeting demand in industries from airlines to theatres and halted production in many manufacturers such as carmakers in Europe and the US.

Donald Trump, the US president, has said the cure must not be worse than the problem and that the country needed to get back to work by Easter Sunday if possible.

Mr Wallenberg said he wanted to start a debate about the long-term consequences of the crisis. “I am dead scared of the consequences to society,” he said. “I want to put the view — what else can we do? Right now, we’re just going on one path . . . We have to weigh the risks of the medicine affecting the patient drastically.

“How does tomorrow look like? One of these days there is a tomorrow. We have to prepare ourselves as well.”

His home country of Sweden is a global outlier in its response to coronavirus, keeping schools and borders open and making fewer restrictions than other European countries. There has also been a significant debate about whether the economic costs of certain restrictions outweigh the health benefits.

Mr Wallenberg said the Swedish debate had been very much “business versus life” but he wanted to take a “life versus life” perspective. Elderly people should be protected more, perhaps by being placed in mandatory quarantine.

But there should be a parallel discussion on how to return to a vibrant society with a rich cultural offering and lively restaurants as well as think about the next generation.

Mr Wallenberg said his call for a debate on what happened after “the acute phase of the crisis” was backed by European Round Table for Industry, 50 leading industrialists who represent companies with revenues of €2tn.

“Authorities are all working very hard to help society. They are not looking around the corner as much. They are not taking the longer-term perspective. This is something that is very important for society and for the EU,” he added.

what's that phrase? When people show you who they are, believe them.
 
Anyway,

I see them using the word "apocalypse" when describing what's going on in New York hospitals so we seem to be faring pretty well here, whether because of good measures or lack of population density or a whole range of factors.

Does anyone have any idea if we're currently at 200 odd cases a day because measures are working or because that's the ceiling for the amount of positive tests that can come out each day?
 
Massive decrease in uk deaths from yesterday. What’s going on here?

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Massive decrease in uk deaths from yesterday. What’s going on here?

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The Virus feels it has made it's point and will be phoning warnings in from now on, but would also like to emphasise it hasn't gone away, you know.
 
Unless Aer Lingus cancel the flight you may not be entitled to a refund. Worth holding out as long as possible but the vouchers may turn out to be the best offer...

Under EU regulations airlines must offer passengers the choice of Refund, Re-routing at the earliest time or re-routing at a later date IF the airline cancels the flights (regardless of why the flights are cancelled). But if a passenger chooses to cancel their reservation, or fails to show up for their flight, then the most they may be entitled to from the airline is a refund of airport charges.
Just thanks again, this was rock solid advice

Saved me playing chicken with a corporation
 
Does anyone have any idea if we're currently at 200 odd cases a day because measures are working or because that's the ceiling for the amount of positive tests that can come out each day?
I'd say it's very likely that it's the latter. That doesn't mean the measures we're taking aren't working, but the backlogs suggest we're running at full capacity on testing
 

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