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Why can’t all the addicts go to pharmacies?? Surely that would make more sense.
cos of the thieving scum baggery
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Why can’t all the addicts go to pharmacies?? Surely that would make more sense.
there's a difference between profiting and profiteering.
pharmacies in ireland are an anachronism; they are a regulated business (and with good reason, seeing as a lot of what they sell could be harmful or fatal if taken by the wrong person), but the pharmacists have used this situation to their advantage to create and maintain a cartel which can charge, essentially, whatever they think they can get away with. they don't have to fear the open market, where another pharmacist down the road is cheaper. so they gouge people. that's not a 'normal' business, and it shouldn't be treated as one.
Naw, they're objecting to the HSE to giving them less money. The HSE have decided that they're going to pay a lower price for drugs, and they say the drugs companies have agreed to the price drop. The pharmacists say the drugs companies haven't agreed, but instead they've just sent letters to the pharmacists to saying "we'll do what we can" ... so what the pharmacists expect will happen is that the drugs companies will continue to charge more or less the same wholesale prices for the drugs, and that the state will buy the drugs from the pharmacists for less than what it costs the pharmacists to buy them.Pharmascists want more payments from the hse.
Indeed. There are lots of different view points on this (I personally subscribe to the pinko middle class liberal viewpoint that they're mostly victims) but this is academic. Whatever one might think, most people agree that the more people have drug problems the more society suffers. Punishing people for becoming addicts is probably not going to help matters.I'm not saying heroin's not vile. But a certain amount of responsibility lies with the addicts themselves.
The people who go to pharmacies for methadone aren't the ones strung out on the street for obvious reasons. Many of them work full time and pay taxes.
you know as well as i do that this kind of post has no place here.Naw, they're objecting to the HSE to giving them less money. The HSE have decided that they're going to pay a lower price for drugs, and they say the drugs companies have agreed to the price drop. The pharmacists say the drugs companies haven't agreed, but instead they've just sent letters to the pharmacists to saying "we'll do what we can" ... so what the pharmacists expect will happen is that the drugs companies will continue to charge more or less the same wholesale prices for the drugs, and that the state will buy the drugs from the pharmacists for less than what it costs the pharmacists to buy them.
Pharmacists are protesting against this by withdrawing from the methadone thing, which was an opt-in scheme to begin with.
Should be easy enough to sort out, really. If the state has agreed a price drop with the drugs companies, all they have to do is get the drugs companies to tell the pharmacists about it and away we go. If they haven't, then they need to do so
Fair enough -- but I still wouldn't expect them to work for free or sell something and not make a profit.
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back this one up, just for me.
cos of the thieving scum baggery
Indeed. There are lots of different view points on this (I personally subscribe to the pinko middle class liberal viewpoint that they're mostly victims) but this is academic. Whatever one might think, most people agree that the more people have drug problems the more society suffers. Punishing people for becoming addicts is probably not going to help matters.
It is, and it is ... though the head of the IPU (who, funny enough, I know pretty well, he used to sit beside me in school) said on the radio yesterday "any action we take is going to affect some group of patients in some way", and I spose there's no getting around that.The problem seems to be between the HSE and the pharmacists, and it's the recovering addicts who are suffering for it.
I agree, I think in an ideal world medical care would be as close to state funded as possible. I don't think it fair to criticise the pharmacists for our current health care system. Since the reality is that much of the health system is run on a for-profit basis, it's natural that pharmacists will be out to make a profit. Same as builders and accountants. The issue is with the state and the priorities of the citizens who elect our representativesThe problem seems to be between the HSE and the pharmacists, and it's the recovering addicts who are suffering for it. I don't begrudge people their businesses, but I am wary of Ireland going the way of the US in health care becoming a totally for-profit industry where access is based on means instead of need.
So we should have all the thieving scum bag addicts, and everyone else who's addicted to heroin but can't afford to buy it, and have them all going to the same place regularly, meeting up, hanging out, getting high, and robbing the locals on a weekly basis, the one’s that don’t want to quit pressuring the ones who do, and so on??
I'm not suggesting people be punished but I don't think they should be sheltered from the consequences of their actions.
I doubt there's very many heroin addicts who don't feel the consequances of their actions on a very regular basis.I'm not suggesting people be punished but I don't think they should be sheltered from the consequences of their actions.
i blame the culchies/immigrants for getting the people from dublin onto the gear and then taken their jobs and their women.
Surely being an addict has enough consequences elsewhere in people's lives that this is one place where there should be real ease of access without much fuss. Most addicts are going to be dealing with the consequences of addiction for the rest of their lives.
Perfect! Why didn't I think of that?
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