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Lili Marlene

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I think the problem might be with the lads who aren't getting leered at, who then internalize the issue because they aren't allowed talk about it, become a little ball of self-hate, and then kill someone, possibly themselves.

I mean, I'm glad all the alphas on thumped have made it very clear that it doesn't apply to them, but this isn't coming from nowhere.
 
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Even just thinking your work situation, would any of this be okay?

Constant comments from co-workers/clients about your weight and making nonstop sexual innuendos.

Co-workers/clients cornering you and not letting you pass by without needing to brush against them and/or just out and out groping while out on the floor.

Co-workers or clients questioning your personal life and choices with special regard to children.

A co-worker or client waiting until you’re the only two left in the building and say, “you scared now?”



I could go on and on.... it’s not the same vice versa despite fully acknowledging women can be creepy as fuck too.
 

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Even just thinking your work situation, would any of this be okay?

Constant comments from co-workers/clients about your weight and making nonstop sexual innuendos.

Co-workers/clients cornering you and not letting you pass by without needing to brush against them and/or just out and out groping while out on the floor.

Co-workers or clients questioning your personal life and choices with special regard to children.

A co-worker or client waiting until you’re the only two left in the building and say, “you scared now?”



I could go on and on.... it’s not the same vice versa despite fully acknowledging women can be creepy as fuck too.
No it's absolutely horrendous. I've heard some not too dissimilar stories about some of the stuff my (female) mate has to put up with in here from some of upper management - and in here there is a HR department she could go to and make a complaint to, but there would be so much he said/she said over it, and it'd probably put her career-path in jeopardy, so she doesn't.

I'm completely protected from a) seeing it and b) it ever happening to me simply because i'm a guy. I hope you didn't think I was saying otherwise.

The thread is asking why do men act like this and that's what I'm trying to discuss.
 

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No it's absolutely horrendous. I've heard some not too dissimilar stories about some of the stuff my (female) mate has to put up with in here from some of upper management - and in here there is a HR department you could go to and make a complaint to, but there would be so much he said/she said over it, and it'd probably put her career-path in jeopardy, so she doesn't.

I'm completely protected from a) seeing it and b) it ever happening to me simply because i'm a guy. I hope you didn't think I was saying otherwise.

The thread is asking why do men act like this and that's what I'm trying to discuss.
I wasn’t directing that at you.... it was maybe flashback (or someone above) talking about getting leery looks from women. Sorry I am on my phone so it’s hard to follow.
 
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My gf lived on her own in rural wales for 4 years and got this sort of behaviour from lads at work who would be nice as pie in work and turn into scary sleazebags in the pub. She stoped socialising with work and stopped going to the pubs there altogether.
 

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not many posting on this thread are actually female ?!

as an adult don't think i've ever had any women be nasty to
me on the basis of being a male (people are equal opportunities
about being not likeable).

i often speak about the status of children in society and yes, i'm
going to again.
the authority figures in my childhood were mostly women and
i saw different values as how boys and girls were treated.
sometimes boys had it better and sometimes girls benefited more.
when it came to violence, boys generally experienced much more
and a lot of it towards children was at the hands of adult women.
slapping kids is just storing up problems for the future.

i supported 'No Means No' / pro consent politics from teenage years
onward but as i saw no violence against women i never took domestic
violence seriously until i was well into my 30's.

even 30 -40 years ago it was considered taboo for a man to slap a girl.
e.g. my sister says she has never experienced this.

until teenage years girls aren't at a huge disadvantage to boys -
at least not compared to what they will experience for the rest
of their lives.

as an adult i can't remember doing i regret to women.
by that i mean i don't initiate physical contact other than shaking
hands - they have to do that.
e.g. one of my friends of nearly 20 years has never even shaken
hands with me and that's OK.

but in the early stages of being 13 i repeatedly behaved in a way
that was going down a very bad route:
i kissed a girl i liked on about four occasions without her consent
and several other times put my arms around girls that were not
OK about it.
a consent class might have stopped this from happening.

after moving shortly after i snapped out of this and by 14 realized
this was appalling behaviour.
i think about this every day but i don't get upset about.
i've never had a girlfriend and when i was fifteen came to the
conclusion i wasn't interested in relationships (for many reasons)
and realized i hadn't anything to offer someone anyway.

i also had several girls mistreat me in a similar ways at primary school
but never after that and nothing traumatic.

PUBS: i don't drink but after i was grown up my folks ran a pub.

i've seen young guys make sexist comments to student age
bartenders a few times.

but the worst i saw other than that was a student have several auld lads
take this piss out her. she was a trainee garda and despite being
a former law student had a strong bogger accent which made her
sound less intelligent and the combination of -
big time bogger + future garda + young woman
- made her an easy target.
the men genuinely seemed to think she was really stupid.

that's as bad as it gets as far i've seen in pubs.

i don't find things like these helpful -
- the word PIG ( FFS haven't the poor animals suffered enough ?!)
- idiotic jokes about builders that stereotype them as lunkheads
- the often misused word CHAUVINIST:
Nicolas Chauvin - Wikipedia

a few final thoughts -
the almost complete lack of immigrant /people of colour in the
Irish political world including the media gets very little comment
but the deficit of women in the Dail often does

the glass ceiling for women in the work place overwhelmingly
concerns middle and upper middle women being passed over
by middle and upper middle class men.
i'm all for female quotas in male dominated jobs but i think
class is as important an issue here as gender.
e.g. labourers don't tend to get promoted - ever.
 

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It’s also unfair to contrast the behaviours because there’s also the inverted nature of sexual availability

A sexually available woman looking for sex from a man is rarer and more culturally desired – it’s what porn basically is and how we sell stuff

Men looking for sex is not hard to find – dick is abundant and low value – and there is a blizzard of dick pics out there



However often men seek out this behavior from women – very often, women seek it out from men in about the inverse proportion.

If a woman is seeking out your dick – you’re in some measure of luck
If a man is trying to grab your female genitals – you’re just alive
 

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as an adult don't think i've ever had any women be nasty to
me on the basis of being a male (people are equal opportunities
about being not likeable).
I've had or seen this happen numerous times. I'd say probably at least once a year, which isn't a huge amount but there is a sort of regularity about it. It's also almost entirely in various workplaces and coming from women who either aren't comfortable with their own positions, are trying to shift blame for something, or are taking a kind of revenge because other people treat them like shit. When I see it in the workplace I'd say it's almost always people who are shit at their jobs that are responsible.
I also see loads of guys with similar behaviour, basically I see the same shit both ways and the usual common denominator is people who are shit at their jobs.
 

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My dream is to live in a remote cabin
With internet access, a Netflix subscription
And a library within biking distance

And only see people at Christmas

Please don't make fun of it

Might not be a remote cabin. Might be a gaff in the arseholes of Ring, but not only is this my dream, I'm going to get handed a hape of cash in a bit and I fully fucking intend to get myself back to Ireland and make it a reality.

Anyone that makes fun of myself or the above can fuck off. I've been planning this since I was 17, riding around Wicklow, kildare and Wexford, looking for suitably remote gaffs.
 

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Might not be a remote cabin. Might be a gaff in the arseholes of Ring, but not only is this my dream, I'm going to get handed a hape of cash in a bit and I fully fucking intend to get myself back to Ireland and make it a reality.

Anyone that makes fun of myself or the above can fuck off. I've been planning this since I was 17, riding around Wicklow, kildare and Wexford, looking for suitably remote gaffs.
 

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Like photos of the transition?

What's intstagram for? Like, I know it's for photos... but, do people do stories and things on it? Is it a blog?
People don't use it as photo storage. I know this. Right? Or do they.
Do people do the like/subscribe/follow thing that they do on youtube?

There's some class of story attached. It's less stress than youtube, I'll give it that.

The alternative, ie not doing anything at all, does seem attractive. But I can see how nice story arcs created with photos could be nice.
 

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Like photos of the transition?

What's intstagram for? Like, I know it's for photos... but, do people do stories and things on it? Is it a blog?
People don't use it as photo storage. I know this. Right? Or do they.
Do people do the like/subscribe/follow thing that they do on youtube?

There's some class of story attached. It's less stress than youtube, I'll give it that.

The alternative, ie not doing anything at all, does seem attractive. But I can see how nice story arcs created with photos could be nice.
Apologies

The link didn't work cos I'm not good with the computers and such
I am not sure why it didn't link to the account

This is what I meant you to see

 

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We're brought up in a context, 80s Ireland wasn't the most forward thinking place on the planet.


I got older and realised at some point I'm a man. I wasn't thrilled about it, but there I was, male: implicated.

Nothing counters this position. I never saw a PSA that said "well, yeah, on the whole society is slanted towards men, but you should be aware that despite this being the more woke and currently prevailing opinion it isn't true in all cases". That concept never occurred to me, and I don't think it occurs to lots of people. It was two legs good, four legs bad, you're on the shit team, shut the fuck up you privileged cunt.



Men can be awful, and regularly are. And so can women. This polarized bullshit leads to people getting blindsided.

This is shamefully embarrassing to write, presumably because I'm still sexist at some level.
But it led to me getting pulled out of my job by an FBI agent (female) because my former boss (female/sociopath) who obliterated me with questions about why I wasn't back in Ireland with my mum (female/physically beat the shit out of me, was busy dying at the time) and then moved on to asking me why I wasn't living with my ex any more (female, acutely abusive). I'm hunkering down, staring at the table saying - yeah, sorry boss. Sorry about that. (And to any cunt who thinks questions? lol, boo hoo, you do an hour plus in an FBI interview veering from alienated family to network security and see how fucking sprightly you feel.)


Because that's what I'd been conditioned to believe. If your Da beats you up, it's wrong. If your male partner abuses you, that's a thing you've been told about and it's bullshit. If your male boss makes a pass at you, that's fucked. If a man pulls up alongside you in a car and tries to get you to go home with him, it's Jeffrey Dahmer. If you make shitty generalizations about any other group, "why do black people love violence", "why do Jews have so much money" you'd get reamed. And rightly so.

But, not only can you can make these shitty generalizations about men, in response you get furrowed brows and chin stroking, lots of men, gobshites like me for example, stare at the table mumbling "oh right, yah, good point, sorry about that".

TLDR: avoid humans in general.
 

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Some interesting points being made here but for closure I think we need to see a photo of Flasback's ass. Claims were made that must be substantiated.
 

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