Vinyl (1 Viewer)

[Jerry Twig]

CD v. Vinyl, Zidane v. Cannavaro.

It's a war out there today on Thumped.

 

[lucidman]

1. Vynil is so fashinate!!
2. Digital sound is always colder the analogue sound.
3. Anologue support overload makes the sound warmer and more powefull digital (cd/mp3) overload makes the sound crapp.
4. The best music release ever have been recorded on vynil support.
5. The best new bands release their music only on vynil.
6. I agree to almost everything said above.

How ever I never buy cd! Only vynil or downloads if I cannot find the vynil.

Lucidman

 

[snakybus]

fine then, it's just you that's old

looking very cas' this morning, micker!

Yes, these days I'm going for the Queen-on-Saturday-Night-Live-in-the-'80s look.

 

[Rimbaud]

1. Vynil is so fashinate!!
2. Digital sound is always colder the analogue sound.
3. Anologue support overload makes the sound warmer and more powefull digital (cd/mp3) overload makes the sound crapp.
4. The best music release ever have been recorded on vynil support.
5. The best new bands release their music only on vynil.
6. I agree to almost everything said above.

How ever I never buy cd! Only vynil or downloads if I cannot find the vynil.

Lucidman

Vinyl kicks ass too!

 

[Mormon Nailer]

Egg and Nailer take a breather...

http://www.thumped.com/bbs/attachment.php?attachmentid=3717&stc=1&d=1152621479

That's Egg on the left. But Nailer gets my loving....

On our left.

I went back in the failsafe box and met myself buying a CD. I played the same album to my future self on vinyl and the fabric of time got a bit fucked up.

 

[Mormon Nailer]

on a similar vein:

 

[Wilbert]

1. Vynil is so fashinate!!
2. Digital sound is always colder the analogue sound.
3. Anologue support overload makes the sound warmer and more powefull digital (cd/mp3) overload makes the sound crapp.
4. The best music release ever have been recorded on vynil support.
5. The best new bands release their music only on vynil.
6. I agree to almost everything said above.

How ever I never buy cd! Only vynil or downloads if I cannot find the vynil.

Lucidman

Fashinate?
You've some nerve calling yourself Lucidman!

 

[egg_]

you can do something about being old, like not assuming the role of a lecturing parent by talking down to Mormon!

Ah ask me bollocks. I'm trying to be clear. I don't talk down to anyone

 

[Jerry Twig]

Right you are.
I have nothing to ask your bollocks, except perhaps why the terminal earnestness?

 

[Wilbert]

Uh-oh!
This is going to get worse before it gets better.

 

[egg_]

Here, Mormon, I don't really need to "trust you on the math", I didn't do a sound engineering course either but I did do a physics degree Not that that's relevant, y'know, but maybe it'll add weight to my argument

Sampling is a simple enough thing (to understand at least, implementing a good a/d convertor isn't so simple), but signal processing isn't - basically what I'm saying is signal processing artefacts are so large that the effect of your "missing information" is negligible

(p.s. The resolution of tape isn't infinite either, the wave is stored by changing the orientation of magnetic domains, which aren't infinitely small)

 

[egg_]

I have nothing to ask your bollocks, except perhaps why the terminal earnestness?

Is a heart that's true uncool now?

 

[Mormon Nailer]

Sampling is a simple enough thing (to understand at least, implementing a good a/d convertor isn't so simple), but signal processing isn't - basically what I'm saying is signal processing artefacts are so large that the effect of your "missing information" is negligible

Fine so we are kind of agreed in principal that sampling an anologue signal results in lost information and that the sampling resolution among other things affects how much information is lost.

You say that the sampling resolution is so high and that that there are so many other things happening anyway that getting hung up on a/d conversion is irrellevant - I'm paraphrasing right I hope.

I dont agree. A/D conversion is changing the signal in a very fundamental way and in a way that it different form the various other transformations you mention. I think it is a reason the sound from vinyl can be so much more gripping than from CD.

(p.s. The resolution of tape isn't infinite either, the wave is stored by changing the orientation of magnetic domains, which aren't infinitely small)

fair point - i'll have to have a think about this.

 

[Rimbaud]

DELETE THREAD!

They've all crawled up their own ass.

 

[egg_]

Fine so we are kind of agreed in principal that sampling an anologue signal results in lost information and that the sampling resolution among other things affects how much information is lost.

Kinda, but of course there's always an infinite amount of information lost no matter what your sampling rate is.

You say that the sampling resolution is so high and that that there are so many other things happening anyway that getting hung up on a/d conversion is irrellevant - I'm paraphrasing right I hope.

Pretty much, though it's not because the sampling rate is so high in absolute terms, just that it's sufficiently high (more or less) to cover the range of frequencies being sampled

To explain this further I'd kinda need a pen and paper, and be able do some drawings ...

Pete - maybe it'd be best to split this into two threads?

 

[hugh]

Pretty much, though it's not because the sampling rate is so high in absolute terms, just that it's sufficiently high (more or less) to cover the range of frequencies being sampled

To explain this further I'd kinda need a pen and paper, and be able do some drawings ...

Here comes the Nyquist limit!

 

[egg_]

Here comes the Nyquist limit!

The fella who lectured electronics in my final year used to call it "the Nys-quith limit".
Poor fecker. There were only 3 of us in the class and I woke up from a doze one day and looked around to see the other two fast asleep. Himself was just soldiering on, pretending it didn't bother him

 

[RED(tape)MENACE]

Guess what - it's all subjective.
A guy was telling me the other day that he sometimes likes to use 888's on drums because they sound aggressive. A whole load of other folks think they're just shitty sounding converters.

 

[snakybus]

shut up shut up shut up

(keep going)

 

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