US Election 2016 (1 Viewer)

[nooleen]

i hope fucking donald and hillary cancel each other out in a massive arsehole supernova

 

[hydromancer]

Is there somethig a bit fishy about the Trump Clinton freindship actually ? If I am not mistaken even there daugthers are buddys.
Hillary Clinton Should Concede to Bernie Sanders Before The FBI Reveals Its Findings

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

Is there somethig a bit fishy about the Trump Clinton freindship actually ? If I am not mistaken even there daugthers are buddys.
Hillary Clinton Should Concede to Bernie Sanders Before The FBI Reveals Its Findings

Seems like a great guy

Ultimate Bernie bro: Meet the Hillary-hating Rand fan who felt ‘the Bern’ and fell in love

 

[hydromancer]

Such bitter opponents
Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, #BlackLivesMatter & The Theft Of An Election

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

Time to revisit the idea of Trump supporters as the ill educated lumpen proletariat?

http://www.economist.com/blogs/grap...t-14?fsrc=scn/tw/te/bl/ed/donaldtrumpssupport

Take education: on average, voters with a high-school education or less have made up 16% of the Republican electorate overall and a fifth of Mr Trump’s voting base; but college graduates and postgraduates account for 43% of his support. Looking at income: voters earning under $50,000 have made up 29% of the electorate and 32% of Mr Trump’s support. Those earning over $100,000 have accounted for 37% of the electorate and 34% of his base.... It would seem Mr Trump is a broadly appealing fellow after all.

 

[nooleen]

i think 'idiots' is more the term that's been bandied about

 

[Mormon Nailer]

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/04/america-tyranny-donald-trump.html

I have really missed The Dish this election cycle.

Much of the newly energized left has come to see the white working class not as allies but primarily as bigots, misogynists, racists, and homophobes, thereby condemning those often at the near-bottom rung of the economy to the bottom rung of the culture as well. A struggling white man in the heartland is now told to “check his privilege” by students at Ivy League colleges. Even if you agree that the privilege exists, it’s hard not to empathize with the object of this disdain. These working-class communities, already alienated, hear — how can they not? — the glib and easy dismissals of “white straight men” as the ultimate source of all our woes. They smell the condescension and the broad generalizations about them — all of which would be repellent if directed at racial minorities — and see themselves, in Hoffer’s words, “disinherited and injured by an unjust order of things.”

 

[Mormon Nailer]

That said - I'm still not sure what the actual point of the essay was.

 

[nooleen]

i made no link to the working class, apparently that's what you assume 'stupid' must mean

 

[Mormon Nailer]

Swim away little fish, swim away.

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/04/america-tyranny-donald-trump.html

I have really missed The Dish this election cycle.

What one of the greatest civilizations in history tells us about Donald Trump

Here's a response to that piece

"Throughout Athens's history, there were people screaming about how stupid voters were," Hanssen says. "People were constantly horrified by the demagogues arising in the assembly. Educated people were terrified of them. But Athens survived them all."

(It's more of a polsci essay than anything else.)

 

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[therealjohnny]

P.J. O’Rourke: I’m Endorsing Hillary Clinton, the Devil We Know

"Bernie Sanders, the Donald Trump for people still living in their parents’ basements"

 

[Mormon Nailer]

The drums had been beating for weeks about a major New York Times expose in the works that would demolish Trump once and for all by revealing his sordid lifetime of misogyny. When it finally appeared as a splashy front-page story this past Sunday (originally titled “Crossing the Line: Trump’s Private Conduct with Women”), I was off in the woods pursuing my Native American research. On Monday, after seeing countless exultant references to this virtuoso takedown, I finally read the article—and laughed out loud throughout. Can there be any finer demonstration of the insularity and mediocrity of today’s Manhattan prestige media? Wow, millionaire workaholic Donald Trump chased young, beautiful, willing women and liked to boast about it. Jail him now! Meanwhile, the New York Times remains mute about Bill Clinton’s long record of crude groping and grosser assaults—not one example of which could be found to taint Trump.

Blame for this fiasco falls squarely upon the New York Times editors who delegated to two far too young journalists, Michael Barbaro and Megan Twohey, the complex task of probing the glitzy, exhibitionistic world of late-twentieth-century beauty pageants, gambling casinos, strip clubs, and luxury resorts. Neither Barbaro, a 2002 graduate of Yale, nor Twohey, a 1998 graduate of Georgetown University, had any frame of reference for sexual analysis aside from the rote political correctness that has saturated elite American campuses for nearly 40 years. Their prim, priggish formulations in this awkwardly disconnected article demonstrate the embarrassing lack of sophistication that passes for theoretical expertise among their over-paid and under-educated professors.

I'm not sure whether Camile Paglia is a genius or a clown (or both) but dam she's fun to read.

 

[Mormon Nailer]

I've read practically every piece on Trump in Slate, Salon, Mother Jones, Vox, NYRB, The Atlantic this season - and they are all identical, and all to a greater or lesser extent shit.

Michael Tomasky in NYRB is a better writer than the 22 year old kids who write for all of the other sites but in general it's like reading school essays. The same conventional wisdom and perspectives stir fried.

The only two that struck a chord were Matt Tiabbi and Paglia.

(also Salon, Jesus it's even shittier than when Joan Walsh was editor - that's a fucking accomplishment - Trump is the nominee, HOW DO YOU FUCK THAT UP!!)

 

[Lili Marlene]

So... what do Matt Tiabbi and Paglia say about Trump that strikes a chord with you?

 

[Unicron]

The only two that struck a chord were Matt Tiabbi and Paglia.

Taibi's recent piece on Trump and the death of the GOP was good.

 

[Mormon Nailer]

So... what do Matt Tiabbi and Paglia say about Trump that strikes a chord with you?

They seem to be the only two that went beyond "people like him because they are stupid/racist/ill-informed (delete as applicable)"

Much of the analysis is:
1. grandness and dowagers proclaming him a "short fingered vulgarian". A matter of taste and new money more than anything else. I'll bet more then once someone has said "fumble in a greasy till" at a party and got a laugh.

2. people who are dumbfounded that he has contradicted himself and earnestly believe that if they can show his followers this or the impossibility of his policies they will be converted.

3. endless analysis of his wife, daughter, every woman he's ever met and how it all indicates he's a monster. Often with a dash of jealousy more often with a shot of prudishness.

And like Paglia says - none have laid a glove on him yet.

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

Taibi's recent piece on Trump and the death of the GOP was good.

It's an entertaining read (I particularly liked the "Carly Fiorina, who stared out at the crowd with her trademark alien-abducted smile" line) but claiming Trump represents the death of the Republican party seems to be overstating the case. Also,

even by someone as dumb as Donald Trump

He may be loud and boorish but dumb? No.