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ITalkShite
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Latex lizzie said:Maybe you'd like it more if you found out that they really did shoot those guys just for the hell of it...
Ah now, Mr. Lizzie. Not helpful.
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Latex lizzie said:Maybe you'd like it more if you found out that they really did shoot those guys just for the hell of it...
ITalkShite said:Just the idea that the cops will head in and kill two of them is most disconcerting, and is even more so as more details come to light.
ITalkShite said:Like none of the bad dudes firing any gun,
ITalkShite said:or bad dudes being shot dead despite being unarmed.
ITalkShite said:dd this to the Gardai's proven track record of being extrordinarily unreliable and self-serving in their 'internal investigations' (RTS/Mayday, Flood Tribunal, out-of-court compensation payments for complaints, John Carthy shooting, etc) and you have to ask yourself what the fuck is going on.
spiritualtramp said:But hey didn't just shoot them in their beds. The ruffians were holding up a post office. Although I do question the motives of the Gardai - they could have just arrested the guys before. Stopping a robbery is a good pr job.
pointing a gun at someone is enough. That dude could have put the gun down.
Bad dudes that were going for a gun, as Lorcanzo claimed.
Yeah, they need an independent ombudsman. What did the guards have to do with the flood tribunal?
Funny how nobody cares to mention all the good stuff that gardai do daily - arresting the cunts that mug grannies/stab people etc.
ITalkShite said:The independent ombudsman has been a persistent request for the past four years, and no movement from the Gardai, or from Michael McDowell. Surprise surprise.
spiritualtramp said:
ITalkShite said:The independent ombudsman has been a persistent request for the past four years, and no movement. from the Gardai, or from Michael McDowell Surprise surprise.
ITalkShite said:Here, I'm not trying to sympathise with bad dudes who are ripping off a post office. Just the idea that the cops will head in and kill two of them is most disconcerting, and is even more so as more details come to light.
Like none of the bad dudes firing any gun, or bad dudes being shot dead despite being unarmed. Questions, questions, and plenty of them.
Add this to the Gardai's proven track record of being extrordinarily unreliable and self-serving in their 'internal investigations' (RTS/Mayday, Flood Tribunal, out-of-court compensation payments for complaints, John Carthy shooting, etc) and you have to ask yourself what the fuck is going on.
quiet youLatex lizzie said:0% for effort brady!
pete said:
cpr said:Fuck em, fuck em in the ear. i've heard too many fucking horror stories lately of Post offices/small shops being held up by cunts like this, ordinary people terrorized while they are trying to do a days work by assholes like this. As soon as decide to commit an armed robbery you must be aware that you are gonna really frighten people and possibly fuck them up and i think its pretty cool now that these people might think twice about doing shit like this.
nlgbbbblth said:hmmm something is wrong here
a drug dealer has been shot in Clondalkin
don't hear Amnesty International complaining.
Obviously their silence means that they are condoning it.
pricks.
In cases where lethal force has been used by members of An Garda Siochána, an independent and transparent investigation needs to be held, both in the interests of the Gardai themselves and in the interests of public confidence and accountability.
In other jurisdictions such cases are automatically referrred to an independent investigative body such as an ombudsman. We still do not have such an office in the state.
Amnesty accepts, and international standards (i.e. the UN Code of Conduct for Law Enforcement Officials, and the UN Basic Principles for the Use of Force and Firearms by Law Enforcement Officials) recognise that police must sometimes be permitted to use force or lethal force in order to do their job of keeping communities safe and protecting people from life threatening attacks. But the force used must not be arbitrary: it must be proportionate, necessary and lawful. And it must only be used in self-defence or against the imminent threat of death or serious injury.
Independent reviews and transparency safeguard both the integrity of the Gardai and public confidence.
spiritualtramp said:Yawn. I knew the anti-guard stuff would start.
avernus said:If I was a cop I'd have shot all 5 and asked their corpses to drop their weapons. fuck these assholes. obviously Irish cops are dweebs with about as much experience of shooting guns as a newborn baby, but I reckon fuck those pricks robbing the post office.
If I was a cop though, I reckon my chief would call me "hotdog", "loose canon", "suspended" a lot. But I'd get results, see.
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