The Russian invasion of Ukraine (2 Viewers)

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A Belarusian battalion joins the Armed Forces of Ukraine

ROMAN PETRENKO — SATURDAY, MARCH 26, 2022, 10:14

www.pravda.com.ua

 

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Russian general Yakov Rezantsev killed in Ukraine

Western officials believe low morale among Russian troops is forcing generals to the battlefield.

www.bbc.com

Rezantsev was the commander of Russia's 49th combined army.
A western official said he was the seventh general to die in Ukraine, and the second lieutenant general - the highest rank officer reportedly killed.

 

[Cormcolash]

I just don't see how some perceived hypocrisy is worse than families getting bombed to death and cities getting leveled.

It's not. That's why the US and UK and co bombing the absolute fuck out of places like Iraq and Yemen for years needs to be called out too.

 

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[seanc]

I found this most enlightening. I thought the "bravery of the Ukrainians against Putin's incompetent henchmen" thing was a bit too much like sentimental propaganda. And I was kinda right:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/american-volunteer-foreign-fighters-ukraine-russia-war/627604/

 

[pete]

videos from an American ex-soldier and now a builder who's volunteering in Ukraine

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[pete]

this is absolutely horrific

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[JohnnyRaz]

I found this most enlightening. I thought the "bravery of the Ukrainians against Putin's incompetent henchmen" thing was a bit too much like sentimental propaganda. And I was kinda right:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/03/american-volunteer-foreign-fighters-ukraine-russia-war/627604/

its essentially true though - perhaps a little more nuanced?

"bravery of the [better prepared, motivated, and equipped with foreign aid] Ukrainians against Putin's [poorly led conscript] incompetent henchmen [who are really good and bombing the shit out of towns and cities]"

 

[pete]

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[dudley]

Ruslan is an amazing guy. My kids had a bakesale in our driveway last week and were able to donate 200 euro to him for this shop, very proud.

 

[pete]

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Holy shit.

Сотрудники ФСБ россии участвующие в преступной деятельности страны-агрессора на территории Европы

gur.gov.ua

fucking lol.

 

[JohnnyRaz]

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yeah - but if you import most of your grain then youre fucked (like a lot of MENA).
and the grain you source locally will be more expensive because of fertilizer costs.

 

[dudley]

Fucking hell, the Russian negotiators have been trying to poison the Ukrainian counterparts??

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[taubstumm]

Fucking hell, the Russian negotiators have been trying to poison the Ukrainian counterparts??

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this seems more like some kind of outcome of a western obsession with the trope of poison-mad russians than any actual real thing. It seems like it barely got out of the gate and people are already trying to distance themselves from it. (if nothing else, what the hell would the russians hope to gain from poisoning the ukrainian negotiators? they need those guys! they’ve got a giant mess on their hands! they need a deal!)

 

[seanc]

its essentially true though - perhaps a little more nuanced?

"bravery of the [better prepared, motivated, and equipped with foreign aid] Ukrainians against Putin's [poorly led conscript] incompetent henchmen [who are really good and bombing the shit out of towns and cities]"

Well, yeah. They're braver because they know that the supplies they have work, and I suppose the Russians weren't expecting them to have rockets that can destroy their tanks, which makes them less effective as soldiers.

I think I mean that the media here played it as if it was a David V Goliath thing, but that article shows that David has more than just a sling shot. Passion for a cause is vital of course, but it's not the only thing, and I didn't understand how the Ukrainians were doing so apparently well, until I read that.

 

[egg_]

this seems more like some kind of outcome of a western obsession with the trope of poison-mad russians than any actual real thing

+1
All news about this yoke needs to be taken with a pinch of salt atm

 

[ann post]

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Little big's Sonya has removed all her sexy pr pics and gone with two anti war images as a profile. She's normally non stop makeup and outfits

 

[JohnnyRaz]

Well, yeah. They're braver because they know that the supplies they have work, and I suppose the Russians weren't expecting them to have rockets that can destroy their tanks, which makes them less effective as soldiers.

I think I mean that the media here played it as if it was a David V Goliath thing, but that article shows that David has more than just a sling shot. Passion for a cause is vital of course, but it's not the only thing, and I didn't understand how the Ukrainians were doing so apparently well, until I read that.

I think a big part of it though is that the the Ukrainians were preparing for the Russians to roll in the tanks for the last 8 years. They knew how the Russians we likely to act, and developed a plan to counter that as effectively as they could with the resources they had. The Russians thought they would roll over.

Its not just an equipment thing - the Russians have a massive, modern army and airforce. The US would have bombed the shit out of Ukraine for a month before any boots hit the ground. Putin clearly thought it would be over within a few weeks at most.

Thats an intelligence and strategic failure on behalf of the russians.

but the 'plucky Ukrainians' trope is silly I'll agree. There's more to it than that

 

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Little big's Sonya has removed all her sexy pr pics and gone with two anti war images as a profile. She's normally non stop makeup and outfits

This is my first time hearing of Little Big,so naturally I popped over to youtube and ok..they've biillions of views..but this is brilliant!

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