suggestions for new irish manager thread. (1 Viewer)

I was chatting to a friend last night who told me that he read a Sunday Times piece recently that showed us how over the odds we're paying for Staunton/Bobby. Apparently we're paying them 650k per annum (400 to the idiot 250 to Bobby), the average rate in the championship is £80,000 we should be able to afford a good manager for that money; get one of those mercenaries who perennially get sides to the world cup.
i heard, it may not be true of course, that tech fai made 10 million from the germany game.
 
Do we give a shit that he's "done a good job" in other areas or does the Staunton fiasco negate all that?
stan did a good job at left back. problem is when it came to managing the team, he fucked up. delaney did a good job at the grass roots level, allegedly, but whn it came to picking a manager, he fucked up. you can't be everything to everyone, john.

anyway, qualification for euro 2008 was one of the key things delaney set out to do, and he failed. miserably. so he should take his medicine. he can step down and concentrate on the stuff he's allegedly good at.
 
Do we give a shit that he's "done a good job" in other areas or does the Staunton fiasco negate all that?

he stated publically that stan would see out his contract wherther we got to euro '98 or not. now he's distancing himself from stan becuase he knows he made a terrible mistake hiring him. ok, there was a committee involved in the decision but delaney was chief trumpeter when everyone else was scratching their heads. stan could be a great manager, but fucking up so early and at international level will have done his career no good and i believe delaney had a part in that. he may have done good things in other areas at the FAI but his behavoir over the last week or so indicates that he is still, as i said, a gutless turd.
 
the john delaney lad is a gutless turd isn't he?

anyway, qualification for euro 2008 was one of the key things delaney set out to do, and he failed. miserably. so he should take his medicine. he can step down and concentrate on the stuff he's allegedly good at.

Mark is more on the money, Delaney is a yellow bellied piece of shit and he always has been. His latest distancing is a disgrace. It would mean even more to see him go than Stan.

"It's unfortunate, I think, that I've been personally linked to the appointment when there was a sub-committee of three [who appointed the management team], which was ratified by the board of the FAI, which is a committee of 10," said Delaney.

Cnut.
 
Souness = disaster.

Henning Berg really showed Souness up in an extract I read in WSC a couple of months ago. Basically the Souness notion of playing 3 at the back was, well, to play 3 at the back. No instuctions given as to whether there was an anchor in midfield, were the fullbacks to focus on attacking, when should they drop back into defence, were they to play more like wide midfielders...? Just Graham standing on the touchline, shouting and holding 3 fingers in the air.

He is like Kevin Keegan. Limited tactical knowledge, but instead of getting the most out of players by motivating them, he just falls out with them instead.
 
Apparently he is gone.

Phil Babb for manager!

Seriously though, I took won the Champions League with Northern-Irish second division part-timers Dundela in Football Manager 2007, surely that counts for something???
 
Apparently he is gone.

Phil Babb for manager!

Seriously though, I took won the Champions League with Northern-Irish second division part-timers Dundela in Football Manager 2007, surely that counts for something???

tell me more, how did you achieve this?
 
tell me more, how did you achieve this?

Well I took over in 2007. My first task was to buy a bunch of shit Northern Irish players who were still better than my team. We won the league and got promoted, with the help of my 16 year old top goalscorer, one of the only decent players I started with.
In 2008 I bolstered the squad with more crap Northern Irish players. Some shrewd midfield signings made the team competitive, and although we didn't win the league, we did win the Irish cup, qualifying for the UEFA cup in the process.
In 2009, yet more crap Northern Irish players were brought in. However it was noticeable at this stage that I actually had most of the best players in Northern Ireland in my squad, having stolen them all off other teams. And the young ones were developing quite well too. We crashed out of the UEFA cup early, but went on to win the league and the league cup, getting us to the qualifying stages of the Champions League.
2010 is where the genius began to show. We made it into the Champions League, after being landed with a ridiculously good draw in the qualifiers (some shit Swedish team we fucking hammered, followed by Sparta Prague and Partizan Belgrade. Belgrade got dumped in the third round, Prague lost out on away goals because they couldn't hold it together at the back). However, we were promptly dumped out of the Champions League in the group stages, despite three notable draws, two against Ajax and one at home to Marseille. Real Madrid hammered the living shit out of us.
At this stage though the team was beginning to come together. Our strong defense (cause defenders are easy to buy) and direct long-ball tactics were causing better teams problems, and we ran away with the league easily because we'd bought most of the other teams good players. This year also saw another Irish Cup win, for the double.
On to 2011, and this is the glory year. Having made some superb signings in the Summer, greatly bolstering our defence, and signing the best midfielder in Northern Ireland, and then signing towering striker Paul Conlon (6'4 100% aerial ability, best at heading, jumping, etc that you can get!) from Cliftonville, we developed a game Jack Charlton's Ireland would have been proud of.
Conlon proved a terror to opposition defences, winning all the aerial balls and if not scoring from headers then knocking it down for a smaller pacier strike partner to put it in the net.
The Champions League 3rd round qualifier was a nightmare draw, vs. Dynamo Kiev. However our chances were decent after holding out superbly for a 0-0 draw at home. We'd need something special in Kiev though, and we got it. After we scored with a first minute penalty, Kiev promptly had 3 men sent off, and we cruised the rest of the game to hold on for 1-0. Into the Champions League again!
This year we got drawn against Slavia Prague, Man Ure, and Hertha Berlin. Prague got hammered home and away because they were fucking shit, but the crux of the campaign came at Old Trafford. After going in 2-0 down at half-time, some stern management words led to a stirring comeback, and the lads came out with a 2-2 draw. A draw at home to Man U and 2 draws against Hertha Berlin were enough to get us through to the second round, after Man U hammered everyone else.
The rest of the Champions League campaign was a fairy tale. Paul Conlon felled the mighty Roma in the second leg at the Stadio Olympico with a goal in the 89th minute for a 1-1 win on away goals. Man. U got the exact same treatment, except the Dundela goal was a United O.G in the 87th minute. Thanks Richardson. Celtic got hammered in the semi final, they couldn't handle the physical pressure from all the 6'4 players in my team, (most of the defence was that height too) and they were shit anyway. It all fell to Liverpool to stop us in the final, but they couldn't do it. We won 1-0 after a 40 yard goal from left winger Ryan McIlmoyle in the 77th minute. It wasn't his fault Reina was 30 yards off his line at the time for no apparent reason, and the ball barely had enough momentum to trickle in. Dundela were the Champions of Europe, and using only the shit Northern Irish players that would actually sign for us.

So basically, when you've got a shit team, get some gigantic bastard of a striker to stand up front, play 4-4-2 with the wingers going forward, get the defence to just boot the ball away when they get it and the striker will knock it down for a winger or his strike partner to run onto and stick it in the net.
 
i was always too idealistic to play kick and rush stuff in champy/football manager. tyring to play passing football in shit leagues is the reason why i was consistently shit at the game, despite playing it slavishly.

i've given up on it now. too much effort. recently considered getting an updated version of champy 00/01 on ebay, and went hunting for a torrent of 95/96, but never bothered in the end.
 
Well I took over in 2007. My first task was to buy a bunch of shit Northern Irish players who were still better than my team. We won the league and got promoted, with the help of my 16 year old top goalscorer, one of the only decent players I started with.
In 2008 I bolstered the squad with more crap Northern Irish players. Some shrewd midfield signings made the team competitive, and although we didn't win the league, we did win the Irish cup, qualifying for the UEFA cup in the process.
In 2009, yet more crap Northern Irish players were brought in. However it was noticeable at this stage that I actually had most of the best players in Northern Ireland in my squad, having stolen them all off other teams. And the young ones were developing quite well too. We crashed out of the UEFA cup early, but went on to win the league and the league cup, getting us to the qualifying stages of the Champions League.
2010 is where the genius began to show. We made it into the Champions League, after being landed with a ridiculously good draw in the qualifiers (some shit Swedish team we fucking hammered, followed by Sparta Prague and Partizan Belgrade. Belgrade got dumped in the third round, Prague lost out on away goals because they couldn't hold it together at the back). However, we were promptly dumped out of the Champions League in the group stages, despite three notable draws, two against Ajax and one at home to Marseille. Real Madrid hammered the living shit out of us.
At this stage though the team was beginning to come together. Our strong defense (cause defenders are easy to buy) and direct long-ball tactics were causing better teams problems, and we ran away with the league easily because we'd bought most of the other teams good players. This year also saw another Irish Cup win, for the double.
On to 2011, and this is the glory year. Having made some superb signings in the Summer, greatly bolstering our defence, and signing the best midfielder in Northern Ireland, and then signing towering striker Paul Conlon (6'4 100% aerial ability, best at heading, jumping, etc that you can get!) from Cliftonville, we developed a game Jack Charlton's Ireland would have been proud of.
Conlon proved a terror to opposition defences, winning all the aerial balls and if not scoring from headers then knocking it down for a smaller pacier strike partner to put it in the net.
The Champions League 3rd round qualifier was a nightmare draw, vs. Dynamo Kiev. However our chances were decent after holding out superbly for a 0-0 draw at home. We'd need something special in Kiev though, and we got it. After we scored with a first minute penalty, Kiev promptly had 3 men sent off, and we cruised the rest of the game to hold on for 1-0. Into the Champions League again!
This year we got drawn against Slavia Prague, Man Ure, and Hertha Berlin. Prague got hammered home and away because they were fucking shit, but the crux of the campaign came at Old Trafford. After going in 2-0 down at half-time, some stern management words led to a stirring comeback, and the lads came out with a 2-2 draw. A draw at home to Man U and 2 draws against Hertha Berlin were enough to get us through to the second round, after Man U hammered everyone else.
The rest of the Champions League campaign was a fairy tale. Paul Conlon felled the mighty Roma in the second leg at the Stadio Olympico with a goal in the 89th minute for a 1-1 win on away goals. Man. U got the exact same treatment, except the Dundela goal was a United O.G in the 87th minute. Thanks Richardson. Celtic got hammered in the semi final, they couldn't handle the physical pressure from all the 6'4 players in my team, (most of the defence was that height too) and they were shit anyway. It all fell to Liverpool to stop us in the final, but they couldn't do it. We won 1-0 after a 40 yard goal from left winger Ryan McIlmoyle in the 77th minute. It wasn't his fault Reina was 30 yards off his line at the time for no apparent reason, and the ball barely had enough momentum to trickle in. Dundela were the Champions of Europe, and using only the shit Northern Irish players that would actually sign for us.

So basically, when you've got a shit team, get some gigantic bastard of a striker to stand up front, play 4-4-2 with the wingers going forward, get the defence to just boot the ball away when they get it and the striker will knock it down for a winger or his strike partner to run onto and stick it in the net.

Jesus Christ. How did you remember all that?

Urge to buy the new Football Manager....growing.....

My claim to fame is taking a shit Man City side to heights even Sven couldn't dream of. We became regular Champions Leage qualifiers. One bad season saw me lose the support of a fickle board so I quit and joined Brescia in Italy. I promptly won the league with them on the last day of the season before resigning. Managed Ireland in the European Championships, got to the final - lost on penalties. Currently topping Serie A with Juventus. Andrew Keogh and Van Persie leading the line.

I reckon we'd make the ideal management team, so long as we didn't have to actually interact with any real footballers.
 

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