RATM Xmas No1 (1 Viewer)

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[quackster]

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[quackster]

at the end of the day it's a case of which bit of SONY would you like to give money too?

at the end of the day most people are aware of this and are probably sick of hearing it at this point. at the end of the day a lot of people buying the RATM don't particularly give a fuck about where the money's going (although RATM seem to be giving some to charity) and would just find it amusing that the x factor guy doesn't get to no1 and bbc have to figure out how to censor Killing in the name of on christmas top of the pops. at the end of the day if you're going to worry about where every single penny you spend ends up there's no point in getting out of bed at the end of the day.

 

[Lili Marlene]

I stand by my quote of someone else's point

 

[Jerry Twig]

there's no point in getting out of bed at the end of the day.

hahah!!

 

[nlgbbbblth]

Joe's reaction after hearing Killing In The Name for the first time.

http://www.gigwise.com/news/53956/

He comes across as a sore loser.

The fact that it's RATM who've snatched the spot is irrelevant.
If Fugazi, Crass, Napalm Death or No Means No pulled a similar stunt you've still have people in this thread defending the X-Factor.

 

[Dr Winston Umbogo]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8423340.stm

 

[psyzzle wazzle]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/8423340.stm

i think its fucking hilarious. beats hearing slade every year.

 

[GO]

the bad weather may have prevented McElderry fans getting to the shops to buy his CD

Heh

It was a great bit of pop chart action when all is said and done at the end of the day.

 

[Flux]

It's a funny old world, pop pickers!

 

[Kermit McDermott]

Power to the people right on.

 

[lympog]

I do like an aul' conspiracy theory...
http://www.2-4-7-music.com/news/news-story.asp?ID=2840

Rage Against The Machine Rage WITH the Machine in Sony Warner Xmas stunt. Losers in no particular order ...


Don't buy the Xmas X-Factor single - buy our own. Or so say Rage Against The Machine - signed to Epic Records who are in turn owned by Sony Warner - the company who will also be releasing the X-Factor Xmas single.
X-Factor winners JLS and Alexandra Burke recently signed lucrative contracts with Sony Epic - the latter a 5-album deal worth a reputed $3 million. Sony Epic are also the record label behind the rock band Rage Against The Machine.
The 1990’s American rock band known as RATM were rumoured to have entered Epic Studios to start work on a new album in April of this year. The band have not released an album since 2000 and the ten-year hiatus is rumoured to have caused Epic some concern. Tom Morello rejected the claims, insisting that he was now focusing on his new band, The Nightwatchman - another Epic signing. Rage has briefly reformed for a series of concerts in 2007 and 2008. How Epic responded to the news is not clear.

Okay, it's not Rage Against The Machine doing all the plugging admittedly (and I can't imagine for one minute they gave their consent), but I just wonder who put Facebook member (and reluctant sock-puppet) Jon Morter and his wife up to such a well orchestrated buzz marketing campaign (one look at Morter's Facebook entry suggests that RATM are not the only Sony Epic/BMG artists he is pushing).

According to his Friendsreunited entry, Morter began DJing at Rage - a Rock, Metal and Punk club based in Swindon - in 2001.

Let's face it: if it quacks like a cynical (but very clever) marketing and publicity stunt it's probably because it is a cynical (but very clever) marketing and publicity stunt.


In their determination to monopolise the Xmas Number 1 at any cost Sony Warner appear to have embraced a campaign that almost ensures they don't lose out commercially. A bit of negative reinforcement of your brand ain't just for Xmas though, it's for life. You have the fiercely pro-X-Factor market on the one hand - and the equally fierce (even 'raging') anti contingent on the other and Sony has managed to corner each market and capitalise on both. Sony pulled a similar stunt last year, when another 'grass roots' campaign sought to place Jeff Buckley's version of 'Hallelujah' at Number One. The rights to the song were again owned by Sony BMG.
And for anyone who thinks this is the stuff of fantasy, then perhaps now is the time to remind you of Sony’s other disastrous ‘fake blog’ scandal.
In late 2006, Zipatoni produced an online buzz marketing campaign known as ‘All I Want For Christmas is a PSP’, for Sony Computer Entertainment America, the makers of the Playstation platforms. The campaign combined what were alleged to be amateur videos with a blog supposedly written by an impartial gaming enthusiast. And to lend a certain amount of authenticity, the blog was even written using faux hip-hop and Internet lingo. But after suspicions had been raised, some readers conducted a WHOIS search and Zipatoni were ceremonially unmasked as the site’s registrars.

In 2008 a marketing company hired by a Canadian bike manufacturer (Bixi) were similarly exposed for creating a fake blog that included a Facebook and Youtube page.
This time around the website that has been championing Morter's campaign is Rage Factor! An online media project produced and designed by London's Eject Media dedicated to promoting an online 'offensive' against Cowell and his chums. The company's founder (and site registrar) is Neill Ridley. Neil Ridley is also the name of a former A&R man for Sony BMG and colleague of Simon Cowell (see picture of Neil's Friendsreunited entry below).





Those cynical amongst us might suggest that Rage Factor is Cowell and Co's way of managing, containing and capitalising on the threat posed by an online counter-culture to the dominance and economic monopoly of shows like X-Factor. Such a suggestion would seem outrageous were it not for the fact that Cowell has made a career out of being the most hated man on television, so having a third-party produce and manage a site that foments Cowell's 'most-hated' status would be a natural enough extension.
According to a brand development specialist we spoke to at Universal, Sony's biggest rival, The Rage Factor - founded just two weeks ago - would offer one way of consolidating and monetizing all that notoriety in one hugely marketable brand. And not just for Christmas either.




Can anyone seriously imagine Epic Records doing all this without the consent of their parent company Sony Warner? I wonder if there'll be a similar word of mouth campaign for V Festival 2010 - another of Jon's favourite 'grass roots' causes.

It's not just crackers they'll be pulling this Xmas - it's likely to be your plonker too.

leigh

 

[SONYMEGADRIVE]

My heartfelt congratulations to to Race Against the Machine on their recent chart success.
Always good to see people from this message board do well in the charts. Welll done Ciaran
and the lads.

 

[cpr]

I really don't want to have Killing in the Name of blasting out of my TV on Xmas Day. The last thing I want to be reminded of on the greatest day of the year is a sweaty Fibbers dance floor.

I had a total Fibber's flashback last night when I heard it on the radio while I was in the shower. I almost vomited...snakebite..

 

[GO]

I still say RATM suck.Fucking annoying song.

 

[Deleted member 3435]

I had a total Fibber's flashback last night when I heard it on the radio while I was in the shower. I almost vomited...snakebite..

...i'm sorry say that again?

fuck da sistum

 

[mr pharmacist!!!!1]

getting an undercut to celebrate this.

 

[Lepra]

it's great to see real music back in the charts. fair play.

 

[Lili Marlene]

I do like an aul' conspiracy theory...
http://www.2-4-7-music.com/news/news-story.asp?ID=2840







leigh

oh shit, has anyone informed jim corr?

 

[lympog]

oh shit, has anyone informed jim corr?

just about to email him now