Rangers (1 Viewer)

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/21438

 

[ann post]

think ye's found cormac's g spot anyways!

 

[CinnamonBoy]

The idea of Celtic joining the Premiership just because Rangers are going bust is ludicrous.
So is the idea that Celtic are fucked just because Rangers have gone bust.

Celtic have managed their finances well over the past 10 years or so, and are not reliant on TV money; no team in Scotland can be. Celtic's money comes primarily from the fans at this stage.
Rangers going bust means they might lose some attendance money in the long run - but this is negligible, as most league and cup games against other Scottish teams already have smaller attendances which don't seem to be getting any smaller than they are right now, so the only money they are really losing is the 2 or 3 home games against Rangers every season.
Add to this that they will get all the league prize money, and have a slightly better shot at getting into the Champions League every season, and these factors probably tend to weigh each other out more than anything.

The 'join the English league' debate has been down to death, and frankly only the complete hacks that write nonsense about the Old Firm week in week out are mentioning it any more. It's not going to happen, and not just because the Premiership wouldn't want it - Celtic would have no reason to want to join a league where they would probably end up struggling every season.

Celtic's primary long-term goal over the last 5 years or so at least has been to put more effort into developing youth players, and attempt to build a sustainable squad that can compete in Europe. Whilst this may be a very difficult thing to do, the idea is financially sound and will not get them into money trouble. They might have a little more difficulty in attracting players (compared to what though? Wouldn't every player rather play in the Premiership as it is?) , but a big part of the whole idea is to try and bring through a better standard of player from their youth team, like James Forrest and this lad Dylan McGeouch look to be.
Basically, Celtic are trying to adapt a Barcelona style model of team building, to bring out a better class of young Scottish player.
They have accepted that they can't compete much in Europe as things are, and they can't compete in terms of cash to buy players that could be competitive there, so the only solution is to try and create something a bit different.

All the hyperbole being thrown about right now about Celtic being in trouble just because Rangers are a bunch of cheats, and Celtic joining the English league - it's all a load of nonsense, and almost all of it is written by shit hack 'journalists' that have realised their jobs are about to be downgraded now that Rangers won't be about to feed them bullshit stories to sensationalize on the back of a rag newspaper. Celtic stopped talking to these fucking hacks years ago, and it is panic stations for them now too, because with no stories being fed to them by Rangers, they are all fucked as well - hence this weak attempt to attach themselves to Celtic in some way in the hope that some event will come along that will save their jobs.

Rangers going bust is fucking great, because not only does it mean Rangers are fucked, it means the Scottish football press is fucked, and the Scottish referees association are going to lose out on a load of fucking cash too!

Great post.

Anyway, Hibs and Hearts (unfortunately in Hearts' case) are big clubs that just need to get themselves in order. Dundee and Dundee United, also, they were both successful in Europe in the 80s. The Scottish league could be grand. Aberdeen too. Fucks sake. All this talk of the SPL needing Rangers is bollocks.

 

[Hector Grey]

Wrexham too.

I think there's a lower Scottish league team that are actually from South of the border, FC Vaduz are from Liechtenstein but play in the Swiss second division. Also, depends on your views re: Basque/Catalan nationalism.

the mighty Vatican FC!

 

[oh shit]

if Celtic has loadsamoney, and Celtic needs Rangers, then Celtic should buy Rangers for a pound. then they could start a breakaway league and play each other every friday night in the greatest show on earth

 

[rettucs]

if Celtic has loadsamoney, and Celtic needs Rangers, then Celtic should buy Rangers for a pound. then they could start a breakaway league and play each other every friday night in the greatest show on earth

David Murray made noises about buying Celtic in the early-90s. He was only stirring the shite though. He said the first thing he'd do was change Celtics kit so they'd no longer wear hoops.

The SPL would die flat on its arse in no time if the huns go to the wall. Its not gonna happen anyway, but if it did. It'd turn into the League of Ireland and Celtic would eventually be at the same level as Shamrock Rovers in terms of interest and support (in that it'd still be the biggest club out there, would have a loyal but small following, and would struggle to get people to fork out 50 quid (or whatever it is), to see them play a team the same level as Galway Utd.

 

[washingcattle]

The idea of Celtic joining the Premiership just because Rangers are going bust is ludicrous.
So is the idea that Celtic are fucked just because Rangers have gone bust.

Celtic have managed their finances well over the past 10 years or so, and are not reliant on TV money; no team in Scotland can be. Celtic's money comes primarily from the fans at this stage.
Rangers going bust means they might lose some attendance money in the long run - but this is negligible, as most league and cup games against other Scottish teams already have smaller attendances which don't seem to be getting any smaller than they are right now, so the only money they are really losing is the 2 or 3 home games against Rangers every season.
Add to this that they will get all the league prize money, and have a slightly better shot at getting into the Champions League every season, and these factors probably tend to weigh each other out more than anything.

The 'join the English league' debate has been down to death, and frankly only the complete hacks that write nonsense about the Old Firm week in week out are mentioning it any more. It's not going to happen, and not just because the Premiership wouldn't want it - Celtic would have no reason to want to join a league where they would probably end up struggling every season.

Celtic's primary long-term goal over the last 5 years or so at least has been to put more effort into developing youth players, and attempt to build a sustainable squad that can compete in Europe. Whilst this may be a very difficult thing to do, the idea is financially sound and will not get them into money trouble. They might have a little more difficulty in attracting players (compared to what though? Wouldn't every player rather play in the Premiership as it is?) , but a big part of the whole idea is to try and bring through a better standard of player from their youth team, like James Forrest and this lad Dylan McGeouch look to be.
Basically, Celtic are trying to adapt a Barcelona style model of team building, to bring out a better class of young Scottish player.
They have accepted that they can't compete much in Europe as things are, and they can't compete in terms of cash to buy players that could be competitive there, so the only solution is to try and create something a bit different.

All the hyperbole being thrown about right now about Celtic being in trouble just because Rangers are a bunch of cheats, and Celtic joining the English league - it's all a load of nonsense, and almost all of it is written by shit hack 'journalists' that have realised their jobs are about to be downgraded now that Rangers won't be about to feed them bullshit stories to sensationalize on the back of a rag newspaper. Celtic stopped talking to these fucking hacks years ago, and it is panic stations for them now too, because with no stories being fed to them by Rangers, they are all fucked as well - hence this weak attempt to attach themselves to Celtic in some way in the hope that some event will come along that will save their jobs.

Rangers going bust is fucking great, because not only does it mean Rangers are fucked, it means the Scottish football press is fucked, and the Scottish referees association are going to lose out on a load of fucking cash too!

Barcelona style model of team building ? You talk some amount of utter shite.

You mean a UCD style model of team building surely. The Scottish league is fucked as it is, it'll be almost non existent if Rangers go, Celtic won't even be able to attract the type of players they were attracting and as for your Barcelona model fuck off, there's no fucking talent anywhere in scotland to fucking nuture. That model is based on gifted youngsters who love football look at Ajax or Porto for how that model works. Whereas Scotland as a whole have produced who in the last 20 years ? eh... Charlie fucking Adam ? Ask me hole.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

Both Celtic and Rangers would play in the Prem in a hot snot. They won't be let in.

Am I using 'hot snot' correctly here?

Should it be like a hot snot?

'Celtic and Rangers would jump to the Prem like a hot snot, if they were let in.'

It's been bugging me.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

Answers on a postcard, please.

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

You were incorrect-like a hot snot is the term.
Although no-one bothered to correct you so either is fine I would imagine.

 

[maims bond]

The idea of Celtic joining the Premiership just because Rangers are going bust is ludicrous.
So is the idea that Celtic are fucked just because Rangers have gone bust.

Celtic have managed their finances well over the past 10 years or so, and are not reliant on TV money; no team in Scotland can be. Celtic's money comes primarily from the fans at this stage.
Rangers going bust means they might lose some attendance money in the long run - but this is negligible, as most league and cup games against other Scottish teams already have smaller attendances which don't seem to be getting any smaller than they are right now, so the only money they are really losing is the 2 or 3 home games against Rangers every season.
Add to this that they will get all the league prize money, and have a slightly better shot at getting into the Champions League every season, and these factors probably tend to weigh each other out more than anything.

The 'join the English league' debate has been down to death, and frankly only the complete hacks that write nonsense about the Old Firm week in week out are mentioning it any more. It's not going to happen, and not just because the Premiership wouldn't want it - Celtic would have no reason to want to join a league where they would probably end up struggling every season.

Celtic's primary long-term goal over the last 5 years or so at least has been to put more effort into developing youth players, and attempt to build a sustainable squad that can compete in Europe. Whilst this may be a very difficult thing to do, the idea is financially sound and will not get them into money trouble. They might have a little more difficulty in attracting players (compared to what though? Wouldn't every player rather play in the Premiership as it is?) , but a big part of the whole idea is to try and bring through a better standard of player from their youth team, like James Forrest and this lad Dylan McGeouch look to be.
Basically, Celtic are trying to adapt a Barcelona style model of team building, to bring out a better class of young Scottish player.
They have accepted that they can't compete much in Europe as things are, and they can't compete in terms of cash to buy players that could be competitive there, so the only solution is to try and create something a bit different.

All the hyperbole being thrown about right now about Celtic being in trouble just because Rangers are a bunch of cheats, and Celtic joining the English league - it's all a load of nonsense, and almost all of it is written by shit hack 'journalists' that have realised their jobs are about to be downgraded now that Rangers won't be about to feed them bullshit stories to sensationalize on the back of a rag newspaper. Celtic stopped talking to these fucking hacks years ago, and it is panic stations for them now too, because with no stories being fed to them by Rangers, they are all fucked as well - hence this weak attempt to attach themselves to Celtic in some way in the hope that some event will come along that will save their jobs.

Rangers going bust is fucking great, because not only does it mean Rangers are fucked, it means the Scottish football press is fucked, and the Scottish referees association are going to lose out on a load of fucking cash too!

Shouldn't you have signed off with something like 'Agger, Babel, N'Gog'???

 

[Cormcolash]

You make a good point. Samaras, Wilson, Stokes.

 

[BonsaiSuperstar]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berwick_Rangers

 

[Hector Grey]

Barcelona style model of team building ? You talk some amount of utter shite.

You mean a UCD style model of team building surely. The Scottish league is fucked as it is, it'll be almost non existent if Rangers go, Celtic won't even be able to attract the type of players they were attracting and as for your Barcelona model fuck off, there's no fucking talent anywhere in scotland to fucking nuture. That model is based on gifted youngsters who love football look at Ajax or Porto for how that model works. Whereas Scotland as a whole have produced who in the last 20 years ? eh... Charlie fucking Adam ? Ask me hole.

aiden mccgeady. i rest my case.

 

[washingcattle]

Me too

 

[nlgbbbblth]

 

[Cormcolash]

Rangers should have gone to the wall last year, before Craig Whyte took over. The only reason Whyte took over, is that they couldn't get anyone else to at the time. So they did a dodgy deal (to say the least) and put off being fucked for a little while longer. They should definitely face full punishment, and be forced to rename the club and reform in division 3, just like Fiorentina had to in 2002. It's kind of hilarious, how completely against the rules this deal probably was. Makes the old Aviva season ticket fiasco look like a laugh!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-17115433

 

[Unicron]

They should definitely face full punishment, and be forced to rename the club and reform in division 3, just like Fiorentina had to in 2002.

I wonder who of Ranger's current players will be the Angelo Di Livio.

 

[coast to coast]

Anyone read the http://www.rangerstaxcase.com blog? It's apparently written by an anonymous Celtic fan. He had a piece on it in the Guardian under the name rangerstaxcase.com about how the media in Scotland only every writes about Old Firm stuff to because it sells, put simply.

There's an increasingly annoying thing in modern day football where everything gets compared to Barcelona. Celtic would be better served trying to create a supply line of local/young players similar to Basel or something more realistic. Barcelona not only has a 40 year headstart on them but has a gigantic catchment area and no doubt a hugely developed scouting network and training system. Not every midget genius is born in the shadow of La Masia, but everywhere from Tenerife to Rosario and so on.

 

[Unicron]

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