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Replace the Birthday Party with Wham! and Nick Cave with George Michael and you'd have a much better article.
She's not wrong but isn't she taking the hooligan too seriously ? I mean if Cave ever has a biopic made about him it will be some kind of perverse satire in which the hooligan is elivated to the level of star all the while being lambasted as a hooligan and then once he's accepted his stardom and starts righting and scoring oscar nominated movies he tries to recapture his status as hooligan in middle age. Like catch 22 for rock hooligans. With Danny Dyer as Tracy Pew.
i like that grinderman album anyways.
It's okay. It peaks and troughs a lot when it's good its very good. Also laugh ut loud funny at times. I read it in two or thee days though, it rips along at a fair auld pace. It's very much the hooligans book, much more grinderman than say, No more shall we part.
I'd imagining interviewing them isn't much fun... if the current edition of Totally Dublin is anything to go by.
http://www.totallydublin.ie/music-feature-grinderman-49.html
"I have difficulties seperating my nightmares from reality,' Jim Sclavunos*, eyes locked on mine like I'm the very hypnagogic incubus sat on his sleeping back. 'My dreams are populated by the people i know.'
'Are you potentially in a nightmare right now?'
'Oh man, this one of the worst fuckin' ones.'
Pow.
At least we're all in Sclavunos night terror together. To call spades spades seems barely necessary - nobody locked in a small room on a sweaty day with Nick Cave** is bound for sweet dreams.
Cave is reclined in a member's club chair dressed not in the expected three-piece suit, but a Hawaiian shirt buttoned down to the belly-button, his chest saved from total exposure by a knackery gold chain, faintly perspiring - he looks like a Tussaud's version of himself done up accidentally in the Miami Vice boys' outfits.
He doesn't like me. I can tell because he's not really looking at the side of the table I'm on, and also because he keeps saying things like 'Jesus man, the Norwegian guy who was in here before you was easier to understand than you.'
Sclavunos today is his sartorial antithesis, amply-bearded, preacher-suited, and making some laser-like eye contact that also doesn't hide the fact he doesn't like me very much either, but here we are in a makeshift EMI meeting room, so let's just all try to get along.
'Ask better questions.'
I'm trying! I'm trying! Rather than exploring the golden, but well-worn path into Cave and Sclavunos' artistically fascinating and turbulent careers, the aim is to hack into the core of the Grinderman project. Shoot me for saying it, but I've never really lost myself in either the Bad Seeds' or the Birthday Party's work. Grinderman, on the other hand, has a 100% hit rate so far. Formed in 2006 as an outlet for a more visceral sound and an open-plan band dynamic than the post-Lyre of Orpheus/Abbatoir Blues Bad Seeds, the self-titled debut of Cave, Sclavunos, Warren Ellis (who brings not just the most fascinating instrumental contributions to the band, but has far and away the sickest beard), and bassist Martyn Casey was a coiled cobra of an album - all death stares and venomous fangs. It was a sexual record in the rock tradition - from the frustrated libidinousness of No Pussy Blues to Get It On's character who has 'fucked the girls you're probably married to', the positioning of rudimentary guitar at the centre of the album's most compelling moments a curiously phallocentric alter-ego to the more flowery, evangelical direction of the then-contemporary Bad Seeds - the trait running through both bands was feverish obsession.
Grinderman 2 is a different beast (quite literally - the artwork of its predecessor featured a monkey, this one an arctic dog prowling a living room - 'you'll have to see the inner-sleeve artwork for the wolf to make sense). It opens in a fit of Shellac-y post-hardcore bass and No Pussy Blues explosions in Mickey Mouse and the Goodbye Man, but grows into a stoner-rock monster (When My Baby Comes hits like Queens of the Stone Age) with exemplary atmospheric work by Ellis (What I Know is composed of just Cave's voice, a hushed mix of looped ghost noise and gentle kick drum). Violins and pianos are more prominent. It draws from a lusher template. Thematically, though, Worm Tamer and Kitchenette stand as the only overtly sexual songs - you can guess at the innuendo from song title alone.
The first album seemed a lot more overtly sexual, lyrically. What happened to the No Pussy Blues? Did Grinderman get laid?
'You young guys,' Cave drawls. 'You see everything through a prism of sleaze. When you get to our age you have a different view of sex. It doesn't have to permeate everything, you know?'
Well, yeah, but you sing about putting your fingers in someone's biscuit jar. Grinderman definitely deals with masculinity a lot, sex is surely part of that?
'Exploring masculinity is a big part of it. It made a lot of people very uncomfortable with the first record.'
Why do you think that is. Reverse sexism?
'I don't feel very comfortable even talking about it. It's unpleasant for people to be confronted with.'
There seems to be this particular character that runs through a lot of your work - on Get It On, back in stuff like [The Murder Ballads'] Stagger Lee, and in the Proposition [Cave's Ray Winstone-starring movie that remains possibly his most intriguing piece of work to date], but that really typifies Grinderman, a character I'd call 'the motherfucker'.
'The motherfucker?'
The guy who's a law unto himself and does whatever he wants. Is there not a degree of persona between you all in Grinderman that is playing out that character?
'No.'
No?
'I think there's more focus on our particular personalities in Grinderman that isn't the Bad Seeds, because it's just the four of us,' Jim takes the reigns. 'I wouldn't have thought there was any persona involved.'
Cave leans across the table and swivels the notes sheet in front of me towards him.
'What else have you got here... The Abominable Snowman?'
Yeah, you invoke the Abominable Snowman on two different songs on the album. What's the significance?
'I used to have all these terrible nightmares as a kid about the Abominable Snowman.'
Really? He couldn't have been very much of a threat in Australia.
'I don't know. People have stopped worrying about him, like he doesn't exist anymore. But he's fuckin' scary.'
A motherfucker, you could say.
Let's move away from lyrics. The template on the album includes more familiar elements from the Bad Seeds, is the function of the band still the same?
'We recorded this album in the same fashion as the last album, in a short burst. We're very, very happy with it. Grinderman for us is still an entirely different unit.'
Do you still surprise yourselves as musicians?
'Yes, completely. It's not worth pursuing if you don't grow from one work to the next.
http://www.totallydublin.ie/music-feature-grinderman-49.html
"I have difficulties seperating my nightmares from reality,' Jim Sclavunos*, eyes locked on mine like I'm the very hypnagogic incubus sat on his sleeping back. 'My dreams are populated by the people i know.'
'Are you potentially in a nightmare right now?'
'Oh man, this one of the worst fuckin' ones.'
Pow.
At least we're all in Sclavunos night terror together. To call spades spades seems barely necessary - nobody locked in a small room on a sweaty day with Nick Cave** is bound for sweet dreams.
Cave is reclined in a member's club chair dressed not in the expected three-piece suit, but a Hawaiian shirt buttoned down to the belly-button, his chest saved from total exposure by a knackery gold chain, faintly perspiring - he looks like a Tussaud's version of himself done up accidentally in the Miami Vice boys' outfits.
He doesn't like me. I can tell because he's not really looking at the side of the table I'm on, and also because he keeps saying things like 'Jesus man, the Norwegian guy who was in here before you was easier to understand than you.'
Sclavunos today is his sartorial antithesis, amply-bearded, preacher-suited, and making some laser-like eye contact that also doesn't hide the fact he doesn't like me very much either, but here we are in a makeshift EMI meeting room, so let's just all try to get along.
'Ask better questions.'
I'm trying! I'm trying! Rather than exploring the golden, but well-worn path into Cave and Sclavunos' artistically fascinating and turbulent careers, the aim is to hack into the core of the Grinderman project. Shoot me for saying it, but I've never really lost myself in either the Bad Seeds' or the Birthday Party's work. Grinderman, on the other hand, has a 100% hit rate so far. Formed in 2006 as an outlet for a more visceral sound and an open-plan band dynamic than the post-Lyre of Orpheus/Abbatoir Blues Bad Seeds, the self-titled debut of Cave, Sclavunos, Warren Ellis (who brings not just the most fascinating instrumental contributions to the band, but has far and away the sickest beard), and bassist Martyn Casey was a coiled cobra of an album - all death stares and venomous fangs. It was a sexual record in the rock tradition - from the frustrated libidinousness of No Pussy Blues to Get It On's character who has 'fucked the girls you're probably married to', the positioning of rudimentary guitar at the centre of the album's most compelling moments a curiously phallocentric alter-ego to the more flowery, evangelical direction of the then-contemporary Bad Seeds - the trait running through both bands was feverish obsession.
Grinderman 2 is a different beast (quite literally - the artwork of its predecessor featured a monkey, this one an arctic dog prowling a living room - 'you'll have to see the inner-sleeve artwork for the wolf to make sense). It opens in a fit of Shellac-y post-hardcore bass and No Pussy Blues explosions in Mickey Mouse and the Goodbye Man, but grows into a stoner-rock monster (When My Baby Comes hits like Queens of the Stone Age) with exemplary atmospheric work by Ellis (What I Know is composed of just Cave's voice, a hushed mix of looped ghost noise and gentle kick drum). Violins and pianos are more prominent. It draws from a lusher template. Thematically, though, Worm Tamer and Kitchenette stand as the only overtly sexual songs - you can guess at the innuendo from song title alone.
The first album seemed a lot more overtly sexual, lyrically. What happened to the No Pussy Blues? Did Grinderman get laid?
'You young guys,' Cave drawls. 'You see everything through a prism of sleaze. When you get to our age you have a different view of sex. It doesn't have to permeate everything, you know?'
Well, yeah, but you sing about putting your fingers in someone's biscuit jar. Grinderman definitely deals with masculinity a lot, sex is surely part of that?
'Exploring masculinity is a big part of it. It made a lot of people very uncomfortable with the first record.'
Why do you think that is. Reverse sexism?
'I don't feel very comfortable even talking about it. It's unpleasant for people to be confronted with.'
There seems to be this particular character that runs through a lot of your work - on Get It On, back in stuff like [The Murder Ballads'] Stagger Lee, and in the Proposition [Cave's Ray Winstone-starring movie that remains possibly his most intriguing piece of work to date], but that really typifies Grinderman, a character I'd call 'the motherfucker'.
'The motherfucker?'
The guy who's a law unto himself and does whatever he wants. Is there not a degree of persona between you all in Grinderman that is playing out that character?
'No.'
No?
'I think there's more focus on our particular personalities in Grinderman that isn't the Bad Seeds, because it's just the four of us,' Jim takes the reigns. 'I wouldn't have thought there was any persona involved.'
Cave leans across the table and swivels the notes sheet in front of me towards him.
'What else have you got here... The Abominable Snowman?'
Yeah, you invoke the Abominable Snowman on two different songs on the album. What's the significance?
'I used to have all these terrible nightmares as a kid about the Abominable Snowman.'
Really? He couldn't have been very much of a threat in Australia.
'I don't know. People have stopped worrying about him, like he doesn't exist anymore. But he's fuckin' scary.'
A motherfucker, you could say.
Let's move away from lyrics. The template on the album includes more familiar elements from the Bad Seeds, is the function of the band still the same?
'We recorded this album in the same fashion as the last album, in a short burst. We're very, very happy with it. Grinderman for us is still an entirely different unit.'
Do you still surprise yourselves as musicians?
'Yes, completely. It's not worth pursuing if you don't grow from one work to the next.
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I'd say being interviewed for Totally Dublin is a nightmare
that article is interminable bollocks....I reckon she's just jealous...
that article is interminable bollocks....I reckon she's just jealous...
Here he is being a bollox in interviews alright.
There's a great one where he's being interviewed in a cab in Amsterdam. the first question is something along the lines of how are you enjoying your stay here ? to which he replies something along the lines of I hate it here it's a godforsaken place filled with hippies and drop outs. He looks totally wasted.
The interview goes steadily down hill from there as I recall and ends with him reading his lyrics to three toppless prostitutes in a brothel.
Here he is being pandered to by off two aussie telly comedians.
There's a great one where he's being interviewed in a cab in Amsterdam. the first question is something along the lines of how are you enjoying your stay here ? to which he replies something along the lines of I hate it here it's a godforsaken place filled with hippies and drop outs. He looks totally wasted.
The interview goes steadily down hill from there as I recall and ends with him reading his lyrics to three toppless prostitutes in a brothel.
Here he is being pandered to by off two aussie telly comedians.
Thats quite amusing!
Fanning has interviewed him many times, and the first time, nearly got decked for asking him about his heroin habit. A later one was more relaxed - Nick was living in West Cork and was very amused the was locals kept coming up to him to say how great it must be that Irish people don't bother celebrities..
Fanning has interviewed him many times, and the first time, nearly got decked for asking him about his heroin habit. A later one was more relaxed - Nick was living in West Cork and was very amused the was locals kept coming up to him to say how great it must be that Irish people don't bother celebrities..
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New album on soundcloud
https://soundcloud.com/nickcaveofficial/sets
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https://soundcloud.com/nickcaveofficial/sets
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Billy Corgan interviews Nick Cave.
hahhhhahha
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Soundcloud streaming appears to be broken
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/mus...ave-push-sky-away-stream?intcmp=ILCMUSIMG9382
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/mus...ave-push-sky-away-stream?intcmp=ILCMUSIMG9382
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New single is deadly
[video=youtube_share;xCxHvNl9MmQ]http://youtu.be/xCxHvNl9MmQ[/video]
[video=youtube_share;xCxHvNl9MmQ]http://youtu.be/xCxHvNl9MmQ[/video]
Have they ever released a bad single ?
They should have just made a full length Bunny Monroe movie while Ray Winstone was available and released that as the video.
His interviews have gotten worse I take it.
like this - different than anythings hes done. theres something about it that brings 'no more shall we part' to mind tho...
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About half way through listening to this. Yes, I'm liking it so far. Very mellow and understated.
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