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The next few sports things I'm interested in:

Women's Euros soccer tournament in Suisse - have a bad feeling the heat is going to be cruel.
All Ireland hurling semis: Dublin v Cork (Sat) + Tipp v Kilkenny (Sun). Both in matches are in Cork.
All Ireland camogie QFs are also on this weekend.
Women's Giro d'Italia cycling starts Saturday (same comment as Euros soccer).

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The men's Tour de France is starting this weekend but I've never been less interested.

 

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The next few sports things I'm interested in:


All Ireland hurling semis: Dublin v Cork (Sat) + Tipp v Kilkenny (Sun). Both in matches are in Cork.

nopes, neither are in Cork

 

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nopes, neither are in Cork

Sorry I stand corrected.
Thought that was a weird choice of venue.
Apparently Pairc Chrocaigh is not Corcaigh!

 

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CORK v TIPPERARY All Ireland Final in two weeks.
Tipp didn't play that well apart from spell between 15-25 minutes when they went from about 5 points down to 4 or 5 points ahead.
The last 15 minutes were exciting / nerve wrecking. I thought Tipperary were going to bollocks it up against a very bog standard Kilkenny team.
Brilliant goal by young Oisin O'Donoghue.
Tipp haven't got a hope in the Final but we can't complain. I lived in Tipperary since 1987 and 2024 was worst Tipp team I've seen.

Also Tipp camogie team beat Kilkenny.

 

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Kilkenny aren't likely to recover from the Cody era for a while

 

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Kilkenny have been running on the spot for a while. They have about 17 players good enough for the top level, which isn't enough. They are paying the price for not blooding young lads over the last few years. That should be the focus over the next 2 seasons. Get some of this year's u20 into the squad/team.

But they're still not that bad. They gifted Tipp 3-1 in the first half, yet were still leading in the 63rd minute. A Richie Reid brainfart when he had a tonne of time cost KK another point, and Paddy Deegan pulling back from a clearance (because he spotted a KK player down injured in the corner he was aiming for) lead to Tipp's last goal.

KK lost that themselves. Tipp hurled smart, but they only won because of the calamitous first-half by the kk full-back line. The unforced errors that occurred when the rain started were something else.

And then there was the shitshow with the scoreboard which suggests that KK would have, at least, been able to force extra time.

Things could certainly be better in kk, but they deserved more from yesterday than they got.

And Tipp could do a number on Cork in the final. Not by hurling them though. They can win by turning it into a dog of a match. Rain on the day would help their cause. They have one of the physically biggest set of backs I've ever seen and will out-mullock anyone.

 

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And then there was the shitshow with the scoreboard which suggests that KK would have, at least, been able to force extra time.

I didn't realise that until now!

'This is f*****g scandalous' - Ghost Tipperary point leaves Kilkenny fans furious

Did Noel McGrath's ghost point act as an unfair advantage?

www.kilkennypeople.ie

Clutching at straws. Kilkenny only got themselves to blame.

Deegan should have seen sent off for striking Ormond on the head

Tipp had a huge amount of wides. 21, sorry, 20 is amazingly few points to win an All Ireland semi.

 

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I didn't realise that until now!

'This is f*****g scandalous' - Ghost Tipperary point leaves Kilkenny fans furious

Did Noel McGrath's ghost point act as an unfair advantage?

www.kilkennypeople.ie

Clutching at straws. Kilkenny only got themselves to blame.

Deegan should have seen sent off for striking Ormond on the head

Tipp had a huge amount of wides. 21, sorry, 20 is amazingly few points to win an All Ireland semi.

Clutching at straws? They needed 2 points, not 3. They had 2 attempts for goal.

Why is it clutching at straws?

This is a colossal shitshow.

Deegan should have gotten a red, yes, but that wouldn't have changed much.

 

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Maybe try this rather than a Kilkenny People article

GAA clarify full-time score in Tipperary-Kilkenny semi-final after confusion over scoreboard error

CCCC awaiting referee’s report “in order to establish how the initial mistake occurred”

www.irishtimes.com

 

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Maybe try this rather than a Kilkenny People article

GAA clarify full-time score in Tipperary-Kilkenny semi-final after confusion over scoreboard error

CCCC awaiting referee’s report “in order to establish how the initial mistake occurred”

www.irishtimes.com

Kilkenny lost to Tipp twice in a day so I am just having a good laugh at them.

I honestly think not sending Deegan off was a worse decision though??

 

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Kilkenny lost to Tipp twice in a day so I am just having a good laugh at them.

I honestly think not sending Deegan off was worse though??

ok, another question

what if Kilkenny had scored one of those goal chances? The scoreboard would have shown a draw. Both teams possibly would have settled for extra time. Then the final whistle goes and it turns out Kilkenny had won by a point? Would that be as funny to you?

 

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ok, another question

what if Kilkenny had scored one of those goal chances? The scoreboard would have shown a draw. Both teams possibly would have settled for extra time. Then the final whistle goes and it turns out Kilkenny had won by a point? Would that be as funny to you?

I should have put an exclamation mark behind "clutching at straws".

It was a joke!

Blame the ref - It did affect the game as you said because Kilkenny were going for goals at the end.
I don't give a shit about Kilkenny's feelings if they can't count! Cork are going to win the Final regardless of who they had to play.

Tipp didn't play well. I am not pleased with the match. To lose to a poor Kilkenny team would have been a disaster.

Deegan not being sent off for serious foul play was a worse decision IMO.

 

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I should have put an exclamation mark behind "clutching at straws".

It was a joke!

Blame the ref - It did affect the game as you said because Kilkenny were going for goals at the end.
I don't give a shit about Kilkenny's feelings if they can't count! Cork are going to win the Final regardless of who they had to play.

Tipp didn't play well. I am not pleased with the match. To lose to a poor Kilkenny team would have been a disaster.

Deegan not being sent off for serious foul play was a worse decision IMO.

nope, not the ref's fault. He had the correct score. This is on whoever controls the scoreboard not paying attention. Or whoever allowed there to be communication gap between ref and scoreboard operator.

Deegan not getting sent off was a wrong call, but it would not have impacted the game in the same way. Not even close.

 

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nope, not the ref's fault. He had the correct score. This is on whoever controls the scoreboard not paying attention. Or whoever allowed there to be communication gap between ref and scoreboard operator.

Deegan not getting sent off was a wrong call, but it would not have impacted the game in the same way. Not even close.

Sorry rettucs. The ref wasn't to blame for scoreboard. He just doesn't see poor Paul Ormond's head!

I have a big problem with serious foul play.
Remember the Tipp v Galway in 2016(?). Joe Canning was running up the touchline and Paudie Maher ran at Canning full speed from side and nearly knocked Joe into the crowd.
No attempt to play the ball, serious violence BUT legal.
It was worst thing I have ever seen in Tipperary match including by opponents.

A photo of Maher v Canning (guess the year) came up in a table quiz to raise money for Palestine hurling kids coming to Thurles in two weeks.

The Palestinian hurling kids are arriving from the West Bank next week. Going to see All Ireland hurling Final.
Then meet Michael D. at Aras and play a match on night of Monday 21st in Dublin.

Tuesday 22nd July is Carlow in morning, cool stuff in Thurles in afternoon.
Stay with local families with kids same age as Palestinian lads.
Next morning the head for Rock of Cashel and then on to Cork.
Later they go to Bantry, Kerry, Galway, Manorhamilton(!), Derry, Belfast + back to Dublin. Should be great.

 

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Palestine's first GAA club to bring over 30 children to Ireland for tour

They’re encouraging people to come out and support them.Children from Palestine’s first GAA club are set to tour Ireland next...

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Young hurlers from Palestine will arrive in Tipperary on a historic visit

Trips to Semple Stadium and the Rock of Cashel are planned

www.tipperarylive.ie

 

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Sorry rettucs. The ref wasn't to blame for scoreboard. He just doesn't see poor Paul Ormond's head!

I have a big problem with serious foul play.
Remember the Tipp v Galway in 2016(?). Joe Canning was running up the touchline and Paudie Maher ran at Canning full speed from side and nearly knocked Joe into the crowd.
No attempt to play the ball, serious violence BUT legal.
It was worst thing I have ever seen in Tipperary match including by opponents.

A photo of Maher v Canning (guess the year) came up in a table quiz to raise money for Palestine hurling kids coming to Thurles in two weeks.

The Palestinian hurling kids are arriving from the West Bank next week. Going to see All Ireland hurling Final.
Then meet Michael D. at Aras and play a match on night of Monday 21st in Dublin.

Tuesday 22nd July is Carlow in morning, cool stuff in Thurles in afternoon.
Stay with local families with kids same age as Palestinian lads.
Next morning the head for Rock of Cashel and then on to Cork.
Later they go to Bantry, Kerry, Galway, Manorhamilton(!), Derry, Belfast + back to Dublin. Should be great.

I also think you're being very harsh on Tipp. They did play well. They played a very intelligent brand of hurling, recognising and playing to their own strengths. They don't have the silken skilled hurlers that Liam Sheedy or Babs Keating had, but they know what they do have, and they know what does and doesn't work. They're equal measures skill and brute force. They play a sweeper but don't do panic'd clearances.

Scanning the media this morning everyone is recognising the Tipp performance, but do acknowledge that they were poor for the first 10 minutes, and did get dominated by Kilkenny for large parts of the game. But coming out the right end of the result at the end is all that matters.

What is of concern is that they conceded 30 points. That's a lot and they will face far more dynamic forwards in the final.

However, on saturday there were times where Dublin looked like they could open up Cork's full-back line at will, so there'll be goals for the taking for Tipp in the final.

Cork are a bit of a juggernaut and have all the momentum. Tipp ground out a result they weren't fancied to. I don't know who'll be happier with their form going into the final. Probably Cork but the only way I can see them being stopped, and it is possible, is by making it a dogfight.

 

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I also think you're being very harsh on Tipp. They did play well. They played a very intelligent brand of hurling, recognising and playing to their own strengths. They don't have the silken skilled hurlers that Liam Sheedy or Babs Keating had, but they know what they do have, and they know what does and doesn't work. They're equal measures skill and brute force. They play a sweeper but don't do panic'd clearances.

Scanning the media this morning everyone is recognising the Tipp performance, but do acknowledge that they were poor for the first 10 minutes, and did get dominated by Kilkenny for large parts of the game. But coming out the right end of the result at the end is all that matters.

What is of concern is that they conceded 30 points. That's a lot and they will face far more dynamic forwards in the final.

However, on saturday there were times where Dublin looked like they could open up Cork's full-back line at will, so there'll be goals for the taking for Tipp in the final.

Cork are a bit of a juggernaut and have all the momentum. Tipp ground out a result they weren't fancied to. I don't know who'll be happier with their form going into the final. Probably Cork but the only way I can see them being stopped, and it is possible, is by making it a dogfight.

I didn't see the Cork match.

Even though Limerick is only 50 minutes from where I live in order to get there for 2 pm I had to leave home on bus at 11:30 and quickest I could get home was 7:45 pm.
I hadn't been in the centre of Limerick for years. Ridiculously bad transport system. Much easier to go to Dublin.
Sore point with me.

 

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Cork are a bit of a juggernaut and have all the momentum. Tipp ground out a result they weren't fancied to. I don't know who'll be happier with their form going into the final. Probably Cork but the only way I can see them being stopped, and it is possible, is by making it a dogfight.

There's also the slight possibility that cork peaked a little early too, where tipp haven't put in a soul emptying performance yet at this point.
I'm kinda backing tipp.
Watch me be so wrong soon.

If that red card had been awarded when it should have been i think kk might have scraped it.

 

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There's also the slight possibility that cork peaked a little early too, where tipp haven't put in a soul emptying performance yet at this point.
I'm kinda backing tipp.
Watch me be so wrong soon.

If that red card had been awarded when it should have been i think kk might have scraped it.

its not even a peak though. This has been the strangest year's hurling I can remember because there are 2 teams in the final with a single, notable victory between them.

Cork don't have a single victory of note this year. They eked out a munster final, on penalties, but they should have been beaten in general play. They were crucified by Limerick a couple of week before. They beat a Tipp team that shit the bed before the ball was thrown in, drew with a limping Clare team, and were unconvincing against Waterford, who everyone bet. Other than that they won the league final, again against a Tipp team who really had no idea of their identity at that point, and hockeyed a Dublin team who were out of their depth.

On the other side you have Tipp, who drew with Limerick, got hockeyed by Cork, bet waterford and Clare fairly well, but neither were great shakes really. They then had a facile win over a Galway team that didn't show up.

I'd argue that the only notable victory either had was Tipp's win yesterday, yet here we have both in the final.

It will be one of the softest, handiest all-Irelands in living memory, whichever way it goes.