Coronavirus: Better Call Sol - CORONAMANIA (9 Viewers)

[magicbastarder]

are there any countries in which vaccines are mandatory (unless good cause can be given)?

 

[Space]

are there any countries in which vaccines are mandatory (unless good cause can be given)?

Think a bunch of countries have mandatory yellow fever vaccination. Pretty sure we have some mandatory vaccinations here too.

 

[Lili Marlene]

This is fine

Tucker Carlson Tells His Giant Fox Audience Not to Trust COVID Vaccines

“On the question of the corona vaccine, our leaders definitely are not pro-choice. Their view is do as you are told and don’t complain,” Carlson said on Thursday.

www.thedailybeast.com

Eh, I dunno, I mean at the risk of being cancelled, he's not wrong in a lot of his critique.

 

[therealjohnny]

 

[ann post]

Think a bunch of countries have mandatory yellow fever vaccination. Pretty sure we have some mandatory vaccinations here too.

Never looked before, there are a few:

Ireland - Traveler view | Travelers' Health | CDC

Official U.S. government health recommendations for traveling. Provided by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

wwwnc.cdc.gov

 

[Denny Oubidoux]

I thought rabies had been eliminated in Ireland :-(

 

[Cornu Ammonis]

Maybe we could look at where the spread is happening and deal with the source rather than the current lockdowns that clearly aren't working.

I think the problem is tracking what the source is - it appears to be social and workplace driven (rather than schools) but I don't know if there's published numbers on any of this. Presumably an actual proper lockdown like we had in March would work and if we kept the lid on it until vaccinations were underway, we'd make some headway.

 

[GARYXKNIFEDX]

Because schools are not a workplace

 

[Lili Marlene]

I certainly never did any work in one.

 

[magicbastarder]

Never looked before, there are a few:

Ireland - Traveler view | Travelers' Health | CDC

Official U.S. government health recommendations for traveling. Provided by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

wwwnc.cdc.gov

are they not the ones advised rather than mandatory? i've never heard of anything being mandatory in ireland, unless it's administered to babies at birth?
for some jobs, it is mandatory (healthcare workers), but my sister was taken out of the BCG vaccine in school because my parents knew she'd freak out about it, and they sprung it on her by surprise a few weeks later; but i don't think there'd have been any follow-up if they hadn't.

 

[GARYXKNIFEDX]

I certainly never did any work in one.

As a student

 

[Lili Marlene]

Or as a teacher, for that matter.

 

[Lili Marlene]

 

[Lili Marlene]

oh fine

 

[Cornu Ammonis]

Because schools are not a workplace

Fair point but I think the distinction is being made that schools are an entity in and of themselves versus offices, universities (which have lots of non-teaching departments and areas), shops, etc. Like, I don't think hospitals are counted in the same way even though they're workplaces too - but the majority of staff are healthcare. I'm not entirely sure though so open to correction.

 

[Space]

I think the problem is tracking what the source is - it appears to be social and workplace driven (rather than schools) but I don't know if there's published numbers on any of this. Presumably an actual proper lockdown like we had in March would work and if we kept the lid on it until vaccinations were underway, we'd make some headway.

Yeah that's my point they need to figure out how to track where the source is and deal with that source otherwise we're going round in circles.

Purely anecdotal but anyone (that I actually know) that's caught it in the last few months has all been from schools. How it's getting into the schools I don't know though.

 

[Cormcolash]

I thought rabies had been eliminated in Ireland :-(

Have you never been to the country?

 

[therealjohnny]

I thought rabies had been eliminated in Ireland :-(

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[ann post]

Yeah that's my point they need to figure out how to track where the source is and deal with that source otherwise we're going round in circles.

I know a few people in tracking - it's down to behavoirs essentially. Like There will be some big social happening under the radar somewhere and everone who goes lies about thier tracking, doesn't log it etc etc. A few days later the cases show up but it might be one person removed from the attendees and its out of control before the trackers get a grip on the actual source. An example i heard was a christening pretty local to here, 16+ piled into a house, then into a rural bar for a lock in, the bar played along and put them down as three tables or whatever.. you get the idea. Basically the tracking works till the information supply breaks down..

 

[magicbastarder]

Those numbers. Even going back into lockdown now, if that's a trend, it'd be Christmas before the lockdown took effect.