Coronavirus: Better Call Sol - CORONAMANIA (3 Viewers)

[David Kronenbourg]

BA asking it's staff to take unpaid leave ranging from one month to one year. wtf

 

[egg_]

I'd say airlines are getting hit v hard - same for any tourist business. They can't afford to keep paying people if nobody's buying plane tickets

 

[dudley]

Connaught Telegraph running a story that all schools to be closed from next Wednesday for up to three weeks (most already have Monday and Tuesday off for Patricks day).

https://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2020/03/10/4186979-decision-on-mayo-school-c/

Could be click bait! Pete, can you open a creche, please?

 

[egg_]

Jesus, things are pretty bad in Italy right now. Have ye seen the stuff on twitter?

 

[Reets]

I still don’t understand how twitter works...

 

[GARYXKNIFEDX]

Connaught Telegraph running a story that all schools to be closed from next Wednesday for up to three weeks (most already have Monday and Tuesday off for Patricks day).

https://www.con-telegraph.ie/news/roundup/articles/2020/03/10/4186979-decision-on-mayo-school-c/

Could be click bait! Pete, can you open a creche, please?

We just had a meeting. There is nothing confirmed.

 

[David Kronenbourg]

Jesus, things are pretty bad in Italy right now. Have ye seen the stuff on twitter?

Like?

 

[egg_]

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[GARYXKNIFEDX]

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[egg_]

From that Italy twitter thread - they're triaging patients based on survival likelihood rather than need. Older patients are not being treated at all, because they want to focus resources on people who have a chance of making it.

See also here Coronavirus Update (Live): 116,707 Cases and 4,091 Deaths from COVID-19 Wuhan China Virus Outbreak - Worldometer ... in Italy 463 dead out 9172 cases. That's a 5% death rate, with another 733 people in serious/critical condition. Fuck me

 

[Unicron]

From that Italy twitter thread - they're triaging patients based on survival likelihood rather than need. Older patients are not being treated at all, because they want to focus resources on people who have a chance of making it.

See also here Coronavirus Update (Live): 116,707 Cases and 4,091 Deaths from COVID-19 Wuhan China Virus Outbreak - Worldometer ... in Italy 463 dead out 9172 cases. That's a 5% death rate, with another 733 people in serious/critical condition. Fuck me

The thing that really strikes me about the Italy stats in that link is that people aren't recovering. Of 9000 cases only 724 of them have recovered

 

[David Kronenbourg]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-asia-51811969?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=5e67bba38d956f0669ae40a9%26Questions%20remain%20after%20White%20House%20virus%20update%262020-03-10T16%3A18%3A52.379Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:c8ce4d95-03b4-444e-86f0-762b19d1169a&pinned_post_asset_id=5e67bba38d956f0669ae40a9&pinned_post_type=share

US President Donald Trump and Vice-President Mike Pence, who is leading the coronavirus task force, have just held a meeting with health insurance industry leaders at the White House.

Mr Pence told reporters that Americans would see "no surprise billing" related to getting tested for the coronavirus.

He said that health insurance companies had agreed to "waive all co-pays on coronavirus testing and extend coverage for treatment in all benefit plans". (Co-pays are what an insured person pays for a service, like seeing their doctor, out-of-pocket.)

The vice-president said more a million tests are out and four million are expected to be available later this week.

But he did not expand on what extended coverage means, and if it would mean Americans with private insurance are covered even if they must be treated long-term in hospital, for example. And being covered by insurance in the US does not necessarily mean treatment is affordable.

Last week, Mr Pence had claimed that coronavirus testing was covered as an "essential health benefit" under all insurance, federal and private. But some analysts ruled that to be misleading as rules differ from state to state and there are limited federal laws governing workplace insurance plans.

Mr Trump also offered a few remarks after Mr Pence's update, saying he plans on helping the cruise and airline industries "through this patch".

 

[David Kronenbourg]

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[Unicron]

The thing that really strikes me about the Italy stats in that link is that people aren't recovering. Of 9000 cases only 724 of them have recovered

I've been looking at this. It may be that we're too soon to the initial outbreak (Feb 15th) to count significant recovery numbers, it makes sense because if it takes a person a couple of weeks to get over it but it doesn't take as long from someone to die from it then the initial recovery vs death figure will look very bad. China, the country who's had this the longest currently has a rate of 95% of closed cases are classed as recoveries.

I'm beginning to feel that we really need to start taking some big measures, after Saturday right after I get back from my birthday trip away to Cork.

Some countries have seen a big spike in new cases a couple of weeks after the initial outbreak, this probably makes sense due to the fact that there'll have been people unaware that it was in that country prior to the first recorded cases being logged so we'd be looking at a period where people might have had it and become infectious before people started improving their handwashing etc. By that measure we might be looking at a couple of days with big jumps around the weekend.

Disclaimer: I don't know what a linear regression is, I'm not a statistician.

 

[dudley]

Urgh, 36% increase in the death toll in Italy today, that's horrible

 

[David Kronenbourg]

That’s me reassured!

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[Unicron]

Big jump today.

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When was day zero in terms of confirmed cases? Edit: Feb 29

 

[Reets]

It’s probably not the best time to be selling a business.

 

[ann post]

It’s probably not the best time to be selling a business.

ANYONE HERE GOT A BUSINESS?

Minister Humphreys announces supports for businesses impacted by COVID-19​

Tuesday, 10 March 2020 The Minister of Business, Enterprise and Innovation (DBEI), Heather Humphreys TD, today announced details on the package of supports she has put in place for businesses impacted by COVID-19.



Minister Humphreys said, “I know that this is a worrying time for businesses and I want to assure them that my Department and agencies are working on their behalf to develop and deliver a range of supports to help them through this rapidly evolving situation.

The Minister continued, “I am hearing from many businesses that they are very concerned about their cashflow in the coming weeks. I want to reassure them that there are a number of schemes that can help them meet their short-term working capital and liquidity needs.”



The Department of Business, Enterprise and Innovation have put a range of supports in place, including:

• A €200m Strategic Banking Corporation of Ireland (SBCI) Working Capital scheme for eligible businesses impacted by COVID-19. Loans of up to €1.5m will be available at reduced rates, with up to the first €500,000 unsecured. Applications can be made through the SBCI website Homepage - SBCI, Strategic Banking Corporation of Ireland - Small business. Big plans SBCI, Strategic Banking Corporation of Ireland
• A €200m Package for Enterprise Supports including a Rescue and Restructuring Scheme available through Enterprise Ireland for vulnerable but viable firms that need to restructure or transform their business.
• The maximum loan available from MicroFinance Ireland will be increased from €25,000 to €50,000 as an immediate measure to specifically deal with exceptional circumstances that micro-enterprises – (sole traders and firms with up to 9 employees) - are facing. Applications can be made through the MFI website Small Business Loans | Government Funded | No Hidden Fees Or Charges or through your local LEO.
• The Credit Guarantee Scheme will be available to COVID-19 impacted firms through the Pillar Banks. Loans of up to €1m will be available at terms of up to 7 years.

Minister Humphreys also highlighted the following supports for firms experiencing trading difficulties and short-term shocks:

• The Department of Employment Affairs & Social Protection and the Department of Business, Enterprise & Innovation will provide a joint First Responder support service through the Intreo Offices and development agencies, Enterprise Ireland and IDA Ireland in each region to provide tailored supports for impacted firms, with objective of avoiding mass lay-offs and buying time for firms to work through the short-term disruptions.

• Firms that need to reduce hours or days worked can avail of the Department of Employment Affairs and Social Protection Short Term Work Support by contacting their local Intreo Office, see Gov.ie - Short Time Work Support

• The full range of Enterprise Ireland, IDA Ireland, Local Enterprise Office and Údarás na Gaeltachta grant supports will be available to firms to help with strategies to innovate, diversify markets and supply chains and to improve competitiveness.

The Minister added, “We are facing an unprecedented level of uncertainty, and businesses may want to access advice on how best to protect their businesses. A Finance in Focus grant of €7,200 will be available to Enterprise Ireland and Údarás na Gaeltachta clients that want to access consultancy support to undertake immediate finance reviews.

In addition, Local Enterprise Offices in every county will be providing vouchers from €2,500 up to €10,000 (with 50:50 match funding) to support business continuity preparedness, innovation and productivity. I encourage businesses to take advantage of these supports.”

The Minister also welcomed the package of reforms for sick pay, illness benefit and supplementary benefit that is designed to ensure that employees and the self-employed can abide by medical advice to self-isolate where appropriate.

Minister Humphreys concluded, “This situation is changing from day to day, and I will continue to work across Government, with the representative bodies and with the banking system to respond to ongoing developments in order to protect and support Irish businesses”

 

[magicbastarder]

The thing that really strikes me about the Italy stats in that link is that people aren't recovering. Of 9000 cases only 724 of them have recovered

Why is Italy so affected by coronavirus?

Italy has the largest number of coronavirus cases outside China, where the outbreak started. Here are some of the factors that might have contributed to that.

www.rte.ie