Coronavirus: Better Call Sol - CORONAMANIA (1 Viewer)

[Lili Marlene]

Ah here. What have you done with @Lili Marlene . Suggesting people will learn from their mistakes?

The fuckourra here imposter, there's Gucci sunglasses to be had.

The Best Small Country In The World In Which To Do Business in.

 

[flashback]

Anyway, you can join me and @ann post's candemic party.

There better be drugs.

 

[ernesto]

e.g. Fine Gael suddenly deciding to use private hospitals to help fight COVID-19.

This was an easy decision for Vradkar to make for his rich buddies;

Private hospitals (like the Beacon owned by D O’B) are getting paid by the HSE a staggering €44,000 per bed per month.

This equates to €1,467 per bed per day.
The NHS are paying £300 per bed per day. (€340)

Vradkar is ensuring his big-walleted pals are getting a nice big pay out over FOUR (4.3!) times that of our neighbouring country

Very Easy decision for him.
In fact I’d say it was made happily in haste

 

[Lili Marlene]

This was an easy decision for Vradkar to make for his rich buddies;

Private hospitals (like the Beacon owned by D O’B) are getting paid by the HSE a staggering €44,000 per bed per month.

This equates to €1,467 per bed per day.
The NHS are paying £300 per bed per day. (€340)

Vradkar is ensuring his big-walleted pals are getting a nice big pay out over FOUR (4.3!) times that of our neighbouring country

Very Easy decision for him.
In fact I’d say it was made happily in haste

I take your point, but which buddies specifically are we talking about here? Do we know he was scratching someone's back here or are we just assuming? I have no love for Fine Gael or a private health system even existing in Ireland, but I still think it was a decent decision, in America they'd just let people die. Also are we paying to keep these beds empty? Last I heard we hadn't even started using them yet.

 

[egg_]

I agree with @Lili Marlene. I very much doubt your ultra-cynical take on this reflects reality.

 

[magicbastarder]

Private hospitals (like the Beacon owned by D O’B) are getting paid by the HSE a staggering €44,000 per bed per month.

This equates to €1,467 per bed per day.
The NHS are paying £300 per bed per day. (€340)

have you seen how much the insurance companies pay for certain treatments?
my dad had stents put in a couple of years ago and the bill came to about €15k; he queried it (even though the insurance was paying) but was basically told 'this is just the way it is'.

 

[ernesto]

I take your point, but which buddies specifically are we talking about here? Do we know he was scratching someone's back here or are we just assuming? I have no love for Fine Gael or a private health system even existing in Ireland, but I still think it was a decent decision, in America they'd just let people die. Also are we paying to keep these beds empty? Last I heard we hadn't even started using them yet

The alternative isn’t not paying them, it’s paying them substantially less

 

[ernesto]

I agree with @Lili Marlene. I very much doubt your ultra-cynical take on this reflects reality.

It’s hardly ultra cynical.
We are overpaying and someone is making money out of it, with help from someone in power.
It’s always how it had gone in this country and especially with that political party.
Make no mistake about that.

You can call me ‘ultra cynical’ all you want but it’s only fair if you take the ‘unbelievably naive’ badge in return

 

[ernesto]

have you seen how much the insurance companies pay for certain treatments?
my dad had stents put in a couple of years ago and the bill came to about €15k; he queried it (even though the insurance was paying) but was basically told 'this is just the way it is'.

Yeah it’s a cash thirsty extortionate industry

 

[hugh]

They probably weren't in much a position to negotiate a better deal even if they wanted to. Surely the real problem here is the fact that we have a two-tier health system in the first place.

 

[Cormcolash]

Don't they all live in D4 and Fingal?

 

[Lili Marlene]

The alternative isn’t not paying them, it’s paying them substantially less

Yes that's true although it might be like saying the alternative to what we have right now is full communism.

 

[magicbastarder]

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[Space]

Did someone actually write "weaponizing of Ireland's death rate"? Fuck me.

 

[magicbastarder]

i KNOW! it's 'weaponising', for god's sake.

 

[Lili Marlene]

Boredom level: might buy a Chemex coffeemaker just so I have another way of making coffee.

 

[ernesto]

They probably weren't in much a position to negotiate a better deal even if they wanted to. Surely the real problem here is the fact that we have a two-tier health system in the first place.

IF that were the case, you can be rest-assured it’s like that because the government happily let them write in that clause

 

[Unicron]

Just back from my first covid "funeral." That is to say that all the neighbours went to the top of the road and waited for the hearse and family cars to go to the house and then back out again.

Everyone was careful about the social distancing and it was nice to see people again and chat to them but it felt really weird being in a crowd, even though it was small, maybe 30 people.

 

[snakybus]

Any of you got a Covid beard? I do. Beards for the boys.

So do lots of folks on Zoom. Including some of the ladies.

 

[Unicron]

Any of you got a Covid beard? I do. Beards for the boys.

So do lots of folks on Zoom. Including some of the ladies.

Well, mine is at least a month past when it was due for a trim, but that hardly counts.