Beth Ditto - shut up (3 Viewers)

[avernus]

in fairness, if kate moss was really nice to you and was your best friend/drugs buddy one night after a gig, and then the NME starts asking you all about it for some shallow article, you're hardly going to talk shit about her. anyway, what makes a better story? beth ditto hating kate moss or beth ditto saying shes amazing?

how about no story.

 

[avernus]

i went to on a german joint german exchange with notradamme when i was 15, anyway -kate moss was on it too and she's actually pretty sound once you get to know her

we went to a small village just outside Passau in southern germany

wow your life is amazing.

here - were you referencing ghost (ditto yack yack) when you mentioned demi moore, or was that purely coincidence?

 

[SONYMEGADRIVE]

BUHH FUHHHHHHH

 

[muffin]

the more i think about this the more annoyed i get..what is the story anyways?that the fat girl can be friends with a supermodel?bollocks to that..

 

[avernus]

BUHH FUHHHHHHH

thanks for clearing that up. ok then.

 

[MDR]

Anyone else think that Kate Moss looks like a bit of a knacker?

 

[MARYJANE]

but doesnt kate moss kinda represent everything beth ditto is against..considering the articles id read with her where she talks about going into topshop and other stores and stretching out their clothes if they dont stock larger sizes..plus talking about how amazing someone is who seems to think that doing a heroin addict is the way to go doesnt seem quite right..and i dont think either story is particularly amazing..

maybe kate moss "represents everything beth ditto is against", i dont know that much about what beth ditto is for or against, but i would have thought from reading that one shit article her point is that you shouldn't judge people by their size, and the fashion industry is about more than just models and you can't blame women for "the machine". so then it would be at odds for her to dislike kate moss on the basis of her being a skinny fashion model?

i don't know what her stance is on judging a woman by her husband or boyfriend though...

 

[lympog]

Sorry I'm not 4 REAL like you are, party boy.

ohhh deadly...
shades of that dick from the manics - yippee

- leigh

 

[lympog]

anyway, what makes a better story? beth ditto hating kate moss or beth ditto saying shes amazing?

beth ditto killing kate moss would make a deadly story
- leigh

 

[muffin]

maybe kate moss "represents everything beth ditto is against", i dont know that much about what beth ditto is for or against, but i would have thought from reading that one shit article her point is that you shouldn't judge people by their size, and the fashion industry is about more than just models and you can't blame women for "the machine". so then it would be at odds for her to dislike kate moss on the basis of her being a skinny fashion model?

i don't know what her stance is on judging a woman by her husband or boyfriend though...

that boyfriend/husband is actually a woman..

and im not judging kate moss by her size but i do judge her by her actions, none of which wold inspire me..and all that stuff about the models not being part of the machine is bollocks..surely the concepts and images of 'beauty' that they are hired to sell just further perpetuate the beauty myth..and while i acknowledge that its not just models and that actresses and pop stars and whatnot also contribute, i think that saying they aren't part of the machine is a total cop out for people who think they dont have to justify their actions..

 

[avernus]

beth ditto killing kate moss would make a deadly story
- leigh

or the two of them falling into a vat of acid. bye!

 

[MDR]

that boyfriend/husband is actually a woman..

Are you sure about that? I thought the boyfriend used to be a girl but had a sex change.

 

[lympog]

or the two of them falling into a vat of acid. bye!

i know someone who can conjure up a black hole by mixing spinach, pig shit and coca cola - it's a deadly party trick

- leigh

 

[muffin]

afaik i think she is still a woman..

 

[MARYJANE]

that boyfriend/husband is actually a woman..

i know dittos lesbian, what i was saying was i don't know what dittos stance is on judging moss on the actions of pete doherty. or judging any woman on the actions or status of her partner. it doesn't seem like a very "right on" thing to do.

 

[Space]

afaik i think she is still a woman..

Yeah she just identifies as a man (I learnt this earlier in this thread).

 

[muffin]

i know dittos lesbian, what i was saying was i don't know what dittos stance is on judging moss on the actions of pete doherty. or judging any woman on the actions or status of her partner. it doesn't seem like a very "right on" thing to do.

but surely its not too right on to judge her on her choices?just as if my other half was a mad girl-beating right wing facist, people would wonder what i was at for being with him..well those that aren't roo right on to judge anybody that is..

anyways this is beside the point...

 

[Mitchum]

Standing In The Way Of Control is still a great choon-is the album any good?

 

[muffin]

Standing In The Way Of Control is still a great choon-is the album any good?

tis pretty deadly alright..although imho i think 'thats not what i heard' is better

 

[Space]

Standing In The Way Of Control is still a great choon-is the album any good?

Personally I think its the only half decent tune on it.