The Household Charge (1 Viewer)

[ann post]

one of my shinner mates (i'm from donegal, you just end up having shinner mates here full stop) posted a solicitors letter recently saying that legally if you dont register you are not liable to pay. i'll have a look for it, but cant verify wether it is real or true. on the other hand i really have no wish nor intention to pay it. the council have both manipulated our estate and have stalled on the maintenance, so we've been paying private firms for that in the meantimes.

 

[ann post]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=385181288175688&set=p.385181288175688&type=1

if you's can see it or not, i dunno.

 

[rettucs]

that'd be this

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0224/breaking35.html

 

[ann post]

yes thats the one. balls anyways.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

Shit, are we supposed to register?

 

[rettucs]

Shit, are we supposed to register?

we all have til the end of March. I expect this will become more prominent in the media approaching the date

 

[Denny Oubidoux]

Can't they just take it from your wages or social welfare payments now anyway?

 

[rettucs]

supposedly, yeah. At least I heard the same thing you did.

Who knows though. Other than the odd news story here and there I have no real clue what the story is.

The best one I heard was that when the govt came out and said it was only 2 euro a week, people started asking for a way to pay it weekly. Cos at the moment you can't

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

Forgive my ignorance, but what if you own an apartment?

Is it still a hundred quid?

 

[rettucs]

Forgive my ignorance, but what if you own an apartment?

Is it still a hundred quid?

yes, I believe so. Thats whats so lazy about it. If you have a 20-bed mansion in Dublin 4 its 100 quid. If you have a ramshackle hovel in Tallaght its also 100 quid.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

They're priming the pump.

 

[IFF]

Forgive my ignorance, but what if you own an apartment?

Is it still a hundred quid?

there are exemptions if in an unfinished estate

https://www.householdcharge.ie/Faq.aspx#fk11

 

[magicbastarder]

as someone asked on the irish times letters page, that since technically the bank own your house if you have a mortgage (they hold the title deeds), should they not be paying?

 

[Anthem]

Apparently you will not get a household charge because the bill is a statute ie. an Act of Government. That means it will only effect the force of law if you agree to sign the register. If you do consent to this and sign the register then you are legally obliged to pay the household charge. By not doing so then your inaction gives you a stance of no consent, therefore the statute cannot affect you. If you do register then you agreeing to this statute which is a legal contract. Perhaps this is why the goverment is keen for us to register for the household charge. I won't be registering.

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/0224/breaking35.html

BUMP

 

[Anthem]

BUMP

Still I won't be paying. I think this is a great opportunity to for us to finally make a statement of some kind. We are not very good at protests so lets just not pay and fuck em.

On another note ,fair play to Putin for vetoing the UN last week.

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

I'm not gonna argue with that,the more non payment there is the better.

 

[pete]

Syrian posts moved to Syria thread http://thumped.com/bbs/showthread.php?86597-Syria

 

[rettucs]

tick, tick, tick

10 days to go before we become criminals.

Have to say I'm enjoying the debates about this. The govt have made such a mess of it. Gilmore coming out today saying you can pay in the post office, whereas you clearly can't. They're printing loads and loads of leaflets to send around to everyone's house, but none being delivered.

I sense a bit of a u-turn on the way. If not relating to the payment of the charge then at least the deadline.

300,000 households have now paid. I think thats around 20% or so.

 

[nlgbbbblth]

I 'd say the deadline will be extended by at least one month.