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If reality is a truth that's beyond mere perception than what use is art to the intelligent person?

Is this the real reason for your "perception=reality" stance? And you're using a pop-culture understanding of quantum physics as a kind of philosophical backup? Surely not!

 

[ann post]

focusing on the meaning of one word instead of all four, is that moving the thread fordward?

 

[platters]

depends on what your perception of forward is

 

[ratmonkey]

Forward isn't a concept which is open to perception, although something may be perceived as moving in a direction which meets your definition of forward.

 

[Diumraid]

Is this the real reason for your "perception=reality" stance? And you're using a pop-culture understanding of quantum physics as a kind of philosophical backup? Surely not!

Cheeky!

Music: part of the human psychic scheme, manifested as soundwaves, very popular
Perception(s): the last word in the human psychic scheme. Objectivity is the giant red herring that should have been declared dead a long time ago
Celebrities: Gods - we know it and they know it
Bastards: probably wouldn't refer to them selves as such

 

[Diumraid]

reading a sequence of events and descvribing them as a 'thread' that is 'moving' in a way that might be described as 'forward' involves a vast amount of presupposition and agreement in the collective psyche (also subject to scrutiny)

 

[Lili Marlene]

So..... basically Science was a 20th century blip that got in the way of good philosophy and only when it got down to a quantum level did it realise this?

 

[Diumraid]

I get the feeling I’m being set up here but,

what use is art to the intelligent person?

Art helps people understand reality and communicates to us the connections between the many aspects of our world. Art also gives a voice to human’s emotional response to reality

Shouldn't we all be just getting down to the real and leaving all the raving and visions to the mentally deranged?

No

What reality is art describing? The reality of Prodigy posters and CDs and all the other 10,000 things of this world or a personal psychic reality?

 

[ann post]

What reality is art describing? The reality of Prodigy posters and CDs and all the other 10,000 things of this world or a personal psychic reality?

see if you are drawing a line between art and reality in regard to perception your getting up on the wrong foot. As you say above, the line is blurred anyways.

 

[platters]

What reality is art describing? The reality of Prodigy posters and CDs and all the other 10,000 things of this world or a personal psychic reality?

the question is phrased in a way that any answer will invariably feed your argument that there are many perceived realities. art is does not always attempt to describe reality, science is the discipline that attempts to do this.

 

[Diumraid]

the question is phrased in a way that any answer will invariably feed your argument that there are many perceived realities. art is does not always attempt to describe reality, science is the discipline that attempts to do this.

Art is continuous with reality, it describes reality as a matter of course. What it does is most often not as useful as scientific practice which is, in practice continuous with reality but as a basis for ontology is an abstraction of reality and a gross modern myth that needs debunking. This is why there cannot be a philosophy of the natural sciences unless they are understood as tools in a greater scheme which, in fact, they are.

 

[nooleen]

i've got a philosophical question:

why is this thread?

 

[rettucs]

i've got a philosophical question:

why is this thread?

its existential

 

[Diumraid]

i've got a philosophical question:

why is this thread?

If we knew that everything else would be easy..

 

[ratmonkey]

i've got a philosophical question:

why is this thread?

Ask yourself why the answer to "why isn't this thread?" is wrong.

 

[Lili Marlene]

Is Diarmuid just taking a very tenuous link with each previous post and then continuing his argument where he left off?

i've got a philosophical question:

why is this thread?

because Science did.

 

[nooleen]

but which are who, and when is haha?

RIDDLE ME THAT

 

[ratmonkey]

And what about Kevin's dead cat?

 

[Diumraid]

Is Diarmuid just taking a very tenuous link with each previous post and then continuing his argument where he left off?




because Science did.

My plan is to say the same thing over and over until everyone in the world agrees with me, just to shut me up.

 

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D, we should start an email conversation about this, and if it turns out any good edit it and try and get it published

Here's the opening line:

"Perception is not reality. Reality is reality"

Will PM you my email address. I anticipate this unfolding very slowly, but sure it might be fun