We Don't Want Your Record (1 Viewer)

[sleepy]

Anybody hear any good music come out of Denmark?

Do they have any surfcore bands?

Don't know about Denmark but Croatia has the Bambi Molesters

 

[sleepy]

The things I take exception to in what he's saying are;

Firstly, the idea that someone is not "good enough". All art has fuck all to do with good. Commercial success more a case of timing and networking, timing is arbitrary and networking is something you can excel at without having much artistic talent. So his theory about quality equating to success is nonsense. i.e send in Vanilla Ice.



Personally I loved the old way of getting records. When you knew one song from TV or the radio then bought the CD or tape or whatever and had that first listen where you're fully invested in it because it's something you own. I don't know if I fully invest myself in anything I can get for free on the internet and I think his line about having to listen to a record 5-10 times to get it shows that he's got the same problem but isn't aware of the fact that his ADD approach to listening to music is a problem.

I remember the old days too; this is what it was like for me when I bought my first album 2 the Extreme by Vanilla Ice on cassette. Only really knew 2 tunes but man that thing was stuck in my tape deck for the summer of '91. It's true you really got to know an album inside out back then.

What it's like,
Havin a Roni,

Good times, good times

 

[Scientician 0.8]

Once the CD and programmable CD player came out that was the death of the album.

 

[egg_]

The reason you’re making no money in the music business is because you’re just not good enough.

This is clearly untrue, but most of what else he says makes sense. Nobody cares about your band, or my band.

 

[parx]

Once the CD and programmable CD player came out that was the death of the album.

Let's hope it stays dead

 

[nooleen]

Anybody hear any good music come out of Denmark?

i think this is the sum total of bands i know from denmark

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and aparently these guys are the next big thing: Listen to the New Communions Track "Cobblestones" | NOISEY

sounds like shite to me, however

 

[therealjohnny]

Kerrang/Danish rock memory

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[therealjohnny]

hahha, the 90s, when metal went shirtless and acoustic

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[snakybus]

I care about your band Egg!

 

[nlgbbbblth]

Once the CD and programmable CD player came out that was the death of the album.

I think they were like that from the start. I bought my first CD player in 1987 and could programme it. I don't use that function too often though.

In the early days a lot of my CD purchases were V/A compilations. Much more satisfying than an LP crammed with over 60 minutes of music and a lot easier to cue up when DJing.

 

[Unknown Convict]

Anybody hear any good music come out of Denmark?

i was wondering this yesterday - our new neighbours are danish. i could only think of niels henning ørsted pedersen and aqua. my wife likes agnes obel.

Do they have any surfcore bands?

the raveonettes?

 

[parx]

Let's hope it stays dead

just to be clear, i was messing on this. albums will never die. they should never die

 

[Kermit McDermott]

It wasn't very clear.

 

[washingcattle]

Anybody hear any good music come out of Denmark?

Do they have any surfcore bands?

No. Fuck off.

http://www.playrec.dk/Default.aspx?section=artists

I like Menfolk.

 

[Lili Marlene]

Lefsetz on Beyonce's album

It's a stunt. No different from Radiohead's "In Rainbows." Unrepeatable by mere mortals, never mind wannabes and also-rans.

That's how desperate Apple is. It lets Beyonce circumvent its rules and release a "video album," so the record industry can have its bundle and the Cupertino company can delude itself into believing that it's got a solution to Spotify, when the Swedish streaming company is chasing YouTube, not iTunes.

And the media is so impressed by numbers that it trumpets the story, believing its role is to amplify rather than analyze.

Yes, it was a story. The same way a bomb or SpaceX or anything new gets people's attention. Only in this case, there was something to buy. Whoo-hoo! We got lemmings and fans to lay down their credit cards to spend money for the work of a superstar, as if this is a new paradigm.

And we've got Rob Stringer and the rest of the inane music business slapping its back, declaring victory.

What a bunch of hogwash.

The story of 2013 is cacophony. How it's almost impossible to get your message out to anybody but those who truly care. Because we're inundated with a tsunami of information and can't be bothered by that which we are not interested in.

Yes, in a world where Snapchat is burgeoning and Instagram allows private messages we're trumpeting something that went viral.

That's so 2012, that's so "Gangnam Style."

The bottom line is Beyonce is a superstar. And superstars get traction. And everybody else is close to ignored. And you become a superstar by having a bunch of money and power behind you.

Name this year's big viral music video.

There isn't one. That game is gone too. And anything that moves is supported by the big boys, it's all about manipulation.

So you do the same thing Beyonce does. You drop your album with no advance publicity. Will that be news?

OF COURSE NOT!

We've seen the trick!

Beyonce has put in years of hard work and hit tracks to get to the point where people pay attention.

If you've got a stiff album can you whip your audience into a frenzy and get them to buy it first day out by doing no advance publicity? In other words, would Gaga have been better off doing what Beyonce did?

I'd say so.

But that wouldn't work for long. And the point here truly is longevity.

Yes, at the heart of this Beyonce project is old school thinking. Which is let's release an ALBUM!

Are we gonna be talking about "Epic" a year from now? Three months from now?

There's a good chance we're not. That's what's wrong with the album construct, it was built for a different time. When we were starved for information and people waited for radio to work a "new" single years after the album was released.

But these days the entire album is available for free the day it comes out. Do you really expect those sitting on the fence to decide to purchase 18 months out? That was the old game, deliver enough hit singles to convert those who were unsure. The new game is to constantly release product so that the audience will continue to be enticed.

PSY didn't have a follow-up single. Oh, he released one, it got a bit of traction out of curiosity, then disappeared, I dare you to name it.

Carly Rae Jepsen had the hit of the summer and had no follow-up and is now forgotten.

Robin Thicke released an album, but all people wanted was the single, he's a trivia question, do you think he's going to be invited to sing "Blurred Lines" at the 2014 AMAs? Ha!

What's your plan Stan? Just because you've got ten tracks that does not mean anybody is interested.

And that's what you need, a plan. And the plan can't be to sell people one collection at one time. That's as if Google only updated its search engine once a month, instead of constantly. How often do you think you'd go back to Google if that was the case?

It comes down to music. And careers. And today being an artist means constantly creating, building an audience and holding it.

This surprise album changes none of that.

If you think there are lessons to be learned here, you come home from Magic Castle and try to duplicate the tricks.

It's a novelty. A footnote. Near meaningless.

Beyonce is a star. If she tried to do this a year from now, almost nobody would be talking about it.

Next.

 

[pete]

Name this year's big viral music video.

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288 million views since September.

 

[Lili Marlene]

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288 million views since September.

You're not wrong but his point is that they didn't come out of nowhere, they were a well established comedy group already.

but i guess so was Psy so... yeah.



edit: just checking, Gangnam Style got a billion views from July to December so that's the benchmark, if you're into that kind of thing

 

[pete]

You're not wrong but his point is that they didn't come out of nowhere, they were a well established comedy group already.

but i guess so was Psy so... yeah.

Well they came out of nowhere on a global scale, and it got traction without coming from "the big boys"... but they're possibly the exception that proves the rule I think.

 

[ann post]

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288 million views since September.

ehm - is 'blurred lines' not the viral of the year?? the actual unboobed video is at 235 million. the combination of the boobed video and the twerking thing must have had at least 50million hits by now.

 

[Anthony]

Do you really expect those sitting on the fence to decide to purchase 18 months out? That was the old game, deliver enough hit singles to convert those who were unsure.

Plenty of albums I haven't gotten around to yet. Bowie's for example.

PSY didn't have a follow-up single. Oh, he released one, it got a bit of traction out of curiosity, then disappeared, I dare you to name it.

Gentlemen

who wrote this shit, off the record?