Waltz With Bashir (1 Viewer)

[Cryptid]

I saw this this evening in the Lighthouse. It's really good. It gives an insight into the Israeli mindset.

The Lighthouse is a really nice cinema.

 

[Cryptid]

Clips here: http://waltzwithbashir.com/clips.html

 

[Anarcho Munk]

yeh...i've been wanting to see this for ages! Ever since I sawa clip of it on Euronews about 2 months ago. I bet the poxy cinema down here won't get it in though...

 

[Cormcolash]

Saw it the other night, it's class.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

If you liked this you might like a graphic novel by Joe Sacco called Palestine.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/156097432X/?tag=thumpedcom-20

 

[pissypants]

This was really good. Definitely recommended. Never comes -across preachy or righteous. Great visuals, and great music.
It's not for everyone though - there was about 6 walkouts when I saw it.

 

[Cryptid]

This was really good. Definitely recommended. Never comes -across preachy or righteous. Great visuals, and great music.
It's not for everyone though - there was about 6 walkouts when I saw it.

Very true about the music too. I loved when This Is Not A Love Song came on. I'm amazed there was more than six people there.

 

[Cormcolash]

Haha yeah I was loving it when Enola Gay came on, never thought I'd hear that used well in a film!

 

[pissypants]

Haha yeah I was loving it when Enola Gay came on, never thought I'd hear that used well in a film!

Spoiler

Used in a really great context too - the boat is bringing all the lads off to their first experience of war, and they're dancing away to a song about the plane that dropped the bomb.

And when he climbed upon the buxom torso of that girl and floated off before the bomber hit - that prompted a few "i don't get this" walk outs when i saw it.

Great scene

 

[robitusson]

the Israeli mindset.

Arrogance and aggression. The most miserable, hateful people on the planet

 

[Cryptid]

Arrogance and aggression. The most miserable, hateful people on the planet

I sympathise with your point of view, especially when you consider the depressing state of the Gaza strip refugee camps but

a) It's still a great movie
b) They can't all be bad
c) "Israel is Europe's Frankenstein*"

Also, this movie shows this particular generation's remorse and guilt at the particular massacres in 1982, although not overtly perhaps. It'll take generations to sort Israel out though.

*Frankenstein's Monster to be technical.

 

[sarah]

This was really good. Definitely recommended. Never comes -across preachy or righteous. Great visuals, and great music.
It's not for everyone though - there was about 6 walkouts when I saw it.

Jaysis, I can't even begin to think of a good reason to walk out? What point did they leave at?

I didn't really think that it was an insight into the Israeli mindset in particular, rather I thought it more broad than that, I thought it was more about personal experience of war. The fact that they were all really immature and had loads of personal reason for enlisting (such as proving their masculinity) seemed much more relevant. i never got the feeling that the characters gave much thought to the bigger picture in terms of the political situation.

but then again I tend to miss the point a lot.

 

[Cryptid]

The fact that they were all really immature and had loads of personal reason for enlisting (such as proving their masculinity) seemed much more relevant. i never got the feeling that the characters gave much thought to the bigger picture in terms of the political situation.

I thought that was the insight into the Israeli mindset. And how it affects the way they think when they go back to their every day lives after the mandatory tour. Maybe not.

 

[sarah]

I thought that was the insight into the Israeli mindset. And how it affects the way they think when they go back to their every day lives after the mandatory tour. Maybe not.

Ah I getcha. I missed the fact that the tour was mandatory..

 

[pissypants]

Spoiler

..And each of the characters interviewed seemed to have reported the atrocities they saw upwards to their commanding officer, and was told it was being looked after, but to no avail.

 

[Cormcolash]

Arrogance and aggression etc etc.

I thought you were talking about Northern Irish people for a minute there.

 

[Pram Stroker]

Yeah, it's a great film.
The excellent use of animation only serves to highlight (and not distract from, like i had thought it might) every little cough and shifty eye movement that the interviewees make as they attempt to reason for their actions.

 

[Wheels]

fantastic film. I thought it was a really good insight into the lives of regular people in the war, their own reasons for getting involved, rather than the usual rantings of political leaders. The animation was subtly effective when needed, but it does completely read like a graphic novel, which is why some people may not have had the attention span, lots of dialogue. But walking out on a movie like that? I even made it to the end of Attack of the Clones!

Oh, and The Lighthouse Cinema - what a joyous discovery!