TV Shows I don't Get (2 Viewers)

[Jim A. Morrish]

Seinfeld.

Not. A. Clue

took me ages to get into it as rte or whatever channel first showed it here had it very late on a Thursday night if I recall correctly so couldn't get into the rhythm of it as I'd only see it now and then

the 2 part episode where they had some baseball player (Keith Hernandez) guesting and parodied JFK/back and to the left was where the penny dropped for me, loved it thereafter

 

[Jerry Twig]

Love / Hate.

Daft / Shite.

 

[Jerry Twig]

Never appreciated Father Ted. An English production on an English TV station with stupid and backward Irish characters. Whoop dee doo. Innovative or what?
SOmeone on this board once called it "a minstrel show for the English" and I could never come up with better than that.

couldn’t disagree with you more on that. It had Irish writers, a fully Irish cast, filmed in Ireland and aimed at an Irish audience. They approached RTE, who wouldn’t touch it because of how subversive it was in taking apart the ridiculousness of the church in Ireland, so they took it to C4. It would have otherwise looked the exact same on RTE. It was brilliant and stills holds up.
The fact that Linehan has since lost his mind is a separate matter entirely.

 

[Kermit McDermott]

Linehan lost his career.
His mind ?...mmm, I dunno

 

[JohnnyRaz]

couldn’t disagree with you more on that. It had Irish writers, a fully Irish cast, filmed in Ireland and aimed at an Irish audience. They approached RTE, who wouldn’t touch it because of how subversive it was in taking apart the ridiculousness of the church in Ireland, so they took it to C4. It would have otherwise looked the exact same on RTE. It was brilliant and stills holds up.
The fact that Linehan has since lost his mind is a separate matter entirely.

Yeah - at the time it was made the church still had real power in this country, and the worst of the abuse was just coming to light. I think that’s important context for at least part of its appeal here.

 

[ann post]

They approached RTE, who wouldn’t touch it because of how subversive it was in taking apart the ridiculousness of the church in Ireland, so they took it to C4.

The urban myth that Father Ted was rejected by RTÉ has always concealed a more damning truth: RTÉ was not approached in the first place.

Bringing the idea to RTÉ, the show’s co-creator Arthur Mathews once said, would have made as much sense as bringing it to Waterford Crystal.

Dion Fanning: RTÉ's staging of Toy Show musical extraordinary given its usual aversion to creativity

If RTÉ stands for anything, it stands for saying no to crazy ideas and, indeed, saying no to any idea at all, writes Dion Fanning

www.irishexaminer.com

 

[Cornu Ammonis]

This is great comedy writing.

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I’d sooner suffer through Friends than Bottom.

 

[JohnnyRaz]

I’d sooner suffer through Friends than Bottom.

Yeah, neither stand up to rewatches for me.
On principle I like bottom, but I think the new statesman is probably the peak of riks stuff for me

 

[Deadmanposting]

Dion Fanning: RTÉ's staging of Toy Show musical extraordinary given its usual aversion to creativity

If RTÉ stands for anything, it stands for saying no to crazy ideas and, indeed, saying no to any idea at all, writes Dion Fanning

www.irishexaminer.com

Yeah
It was always gonna be on English TV, never intended as a show for RTE or Ireland; they obviously needed Irish actors though.
Matthews and Linehan were deeply London based writing for English TV shows. That was their thing.
Ireland was their niche; like that skit on Partridge.
I kinda sorta half-know Matthews from stuff he did before England and Ted.
He did comics and all sorts of other projects with someone I know fairly well. Which is to say, good luck to him.

I think there's a thread of Linehan's moral righteousness from the church & Father Ted to his Waterloo with the internet trans wars.
He thinks he's smarter and more moral than everyone else. But maybe that's comedians all over.

 

[Deadmanposting]

Linehan lost his career.
His mind ?...mmm, I dunno

He lost his mind. Doesn't matter if he was right or wrong on the issue. He sacrificed his whole life over an internet argument.

He became a dril tweet

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[Jerry Twig]

Dion Fanning: RTÉ's staging of Toy Show musical extraordinary given its usual aversion to creativity

If RTÉ stands for anything, it stands for saying no to crazy ideas and, indeed, saying no to any idea at all, writes Dion Fanning

www.irishexaminer.com

Well you live and learn!

 

[Cornu Ammonis]

Yeah, neither stand up to rewatches for me.
On principle I like bottom, but I think the new statesman is probably the peak of riks stuff for me

Bottom is Mr Bean with cursing. I’ve never liked Rik Mayall in anything in fairness, not my style of humour. Him, Martin Clunes, Harry Enfield, etc. all represent a very English “lads” comedy that just brings me out in cringe.

 

[rettucs]

He lost his mind. Doesn't matter if he was right or wrong on the issue. He sacrificed his whole life over an internet argument.

He became a dril tweet

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he lost his wife and his twitter account

musk could only get one of them back for him

 

[Deadmanposting]

he lost his wife and his twitter account

musk could only get one of them back for him

Unless the whole thing was a ruse to get rid of the wife

Which I'd respect

 

[rettucs]

Unless the whole thing was a ruse to get rid of the wife

Which I'd respect

elaborate, but ingenius

but also doubtful

 

[Anthony]

Does it even need saying.... mrs brown's boys

 

[ann post]

It was always gonna be on English TV, never intended as a show for RTE or Ireland; they obviously needed Irish actors though.

I'd kinda just look at it that if I was writing and pitching a comedy at that time, I'd probably shoot for channel 4 at that time 1st because it was a decent enough station in the era and a huge platform - if that failed you'd move around other markets. If it was today TG4 would be a good bet.

 

[JohnnyRaz]

Does it even need saying.... mrs brown's boys

I put it on the WFT! shelf alongside Kilnascully.

Although I'm not sure Kilnascully could ever be classed as successful.

 

[Deadmanposting]

It's almost like English people really like laughing at Irish people being gobshites

 

[seanc]

It's almost like English people really like laughing at Irish people being gobshites

It's not really. You though, need to get over that shit.