Tour de France 2007 thread (5 Viewers)

[Jerry Twig]

http://grannykiller.com/2012/08/24/why-lance-armstrong-owes-my-mam-an-apology/

 

[rettucs]

So given all that-is there anyone in cycling who's not guilty?

loads. Just not most of the lads wearing Sky jerseys

 

[rettucs]

seems talks are afoot to have the Giro d'Italia start in Dublin in 2015

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

Lance has finally been rumbled apparently.I would link it but my internet has gone to shit.

 

[Unicron]

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9YzclxcT0NHNHNQTUV4MkpSSWc/view?sle=true

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

This says it all really

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-of-the-tour-de-france-tainted-by-doping.html

Tour de France is a dopers' parade

 

[rettucs]

Just finished the 200 page version. Got through it quickly because I read Tyler Hamilton's book last week and a lot of the same stuff is in it.

To see a real tragedy from all this, check out pages 191-192. The piece about David Zabriskie, one of the sports best characters. This shows the level of cuntery that fuckbag Armstrong would stoop to.

 

[rettucs]

This says it all really

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-of-the-tour-de-france-tainted-by-doping.html

Tour de France is a dopers' parade

sorry, but that doesn't say it all at all. Those riders are mostly from one of 2 schools of doper - either Puerto (Dr Fuentes) or Ferrarri. I can guarantee you that you could almost fill in all those other blanks with other dopers. For example, Rasmussen is not listed there - he was working with a doctor called Geirt Leinders (fired by Sky only yesterday) who oversaw a doping programme for mainly Dutch riders. Bernhard Kohl is listed there. He tested positive as opposed to being caught by a major drugs programme being busted. He was believed to be part of a drugs clinic working out of Austria that was never fully exposed.

Armstrong going down is a major major thing for cycling. But really, its the tip of a big old iceberg.

 

[7 - No tomorrow]

That's what I meant to say.

The stuff with the foreign names and that.

 

[rettucs]

And in case my implication wasn't clear enough, Dr Leinders, working with Sky, almost certainly overseeing the doping programs of Mr.Wiggins and co.

Rotten sport.

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

Wiggins too?But everyone loves him.(assuming the British media aren't over-hyping again)

 

[oh shit]

yeah the sky ongoing silence on this is damning

 

[rettucs]

Wiggins too?But everyone loves him.(assuming the British media aren't over-hyping again)

not everyone in cycling likes him. Hes a bit of an arrogant prick really. And dodgy as hell when it comes to doping matters. Hes very inconsistent in his comments - all very Lance-like.

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

So,could the case be made for just giving up and letting everyone take as many drugs as they please?It seems they're already doing it anyway and will never stop.

 

[rettucs]

So,could the case be made for just giving up and letting everyone take as many drugs as they please?It seems they're already doing it anyway and will never stop.

no. If you check the report, it lists the money Lance paid to Ferrarri. They can account for more than 1 million dollars that transferred between them.

If they start allowing people take drugs it'll come down to whoever can get the best drugs. Essentially, whoever is richest will win.

 

[Unicron]

no. If you check the report, it lists the money Lance paid to Ferrarri. They can account for more than 1 million dollars that transferred between them.

If they start allowing people take drugs it'll come down to whoever can get the best drugs. Essentially, whoever is richest will win.

Wouldn't that be the case in a clean sport anyway? Whoever can invest the most in training programmes etc. will reap the most benefit.

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

As above.Even in football which we will assume is relatively drug-free the winners are generally always those with the most money-the rest just make up the numbers and exist to provide the odd freak result/cup win etc.

 

[Unicron]

Having said that I don't support the notion of letting them take whatever they want.

 

[rettucs]

Wouldn't that be the case in a clean sport anyway? Whoever can invest the most in training programmes etc. will reap the most benefit.

to an extent, yes, but that will be what separates the better teams from the not as good teams. But at least it will be more about ability. There'll always be an element of, if a rider is good he'll be signed by a bigger team, but at least he'll be judged on the right criteria. And whereas the lowly teams may never scale the hights of the richer, bigger teams, at least the riders will have a chance to prove themselves on a more level playing field.

Plus, its ethical, plain and simple.

 

[тхеодоре кацзынски]

Lances lawyer on rte now,straight into it calling USADA a rogue agency.