The ol' self-doubt (1 Viewer)

[egg_]

Originally posted by silo
constant innovation fostered by being impressed and/or spurred on by the achievements of others in the community

I think that's happening here ... 'innovation' might be too strong a word, but I think the quality bar is being raised in Dublin on account of the strength of the scene. I though 'thirtysixstrings' was amazing when it first came out, but (apart from one or two tunes that still make my hair stand on end) it has kinda paled a bit in comparison with some of the other really good albums that have emerged from Dublin since

 

[uncle_meat]

I love playing drums live, but I'm always pissed off with hearing myself played back. At a gig if I make a minute mistake that nobody (except other drummers, perhaps) would notice, i just say 'ah fuck it' and forget it. Recording however is completely different. I don't think I've ever been 100% happy with any recording I've done, even though other people may think it sounds ok.

 

[snakybus]

sometimes I doubt if I exist

then I think, the only thing I can't doubt is the fact that I doubt my existence

so I must exist, if only as a big cloud of doubt

doubts about music pale into insignificance when you start into heavy shit like this

still, I heard the recording of us in the Village and maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, I hope everyone was drunk, that's all I'm saying

 

[egg_]

I wasn't (particularly) drunk, but it seems the force of your personality masked any dodginess that you may have noticed after the fact

 

[Theseus Mock]

The problem with music today is that far too many people know how to play their instruments. Those people that actually know the chords n' stuff. show-offs. Should guitar playing not be completely based on the premise that you don't know how to play the damn thing in the first place. Isn't noise greater than melody?

 

[the pope]

everyone seems to be fairly woody allen about this... i have to say, although it may seem big headed, that i'm a very good pianist and keyboardist. but when it comes to writing my own music, i have very little that is any good.

so i'm darius about my musical ability, and woody about my writing.

 

[the pope]

Originally posted by snakybus

still, I heard the recording of us in the Village and maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, I hope everyone was drunk, that's all I'm saying

i wasn't.

*chortle*

nice sig btw...

 

[Pantone247]

Originally posted by egg_
I wasn't (particularly) drunk, but it seems the force of your personality masked any dodginess that you may have noticed after the fact

snaky is always forcing his personality upon people

 

[Speed Racer]

Originally posted by enchance
The problem with music today is that far too many people know how to play their instruments. Those people that actually know the chords n' stuff. show-offs. Should guitar playing not be completely based on the premise that you don't know how to play the damn thing in the first place. Isn't noise greater than melody?

No. And it never will be really.

 

[the pope]

Originally posted by Pantone247
snaky is always forcing his personality upon people

as long as he's not cheesy...

 

[Pantone247]

Originally posted by the pope
as long as he's not cheesy...

depends if he's washed it lately

 

[Speed Racer]

Originally posted by the pope
everyone seems to be fairly woody allen about this... i have to say,

...and I think this is reflected in the generally depressed/dark style of music which the Dubln scene exudes regularily. And we live in a dark cloudy wet country too. All factors.

 

[Latex lizzie]

Originally posted by Speed Racer
No. And it never will be really.

..a place for everything and everything in it's place.There is no better or worse.Just different.

 

[Juno]

Originally posted by enchance
Should guitar playing not be completely based on the premise that you don't know how to play the damn thing in the first place. Isn't noise greater than melody?

Depends what you're aiming at I suppose...

Mind you, I've noticed that in certain music circles it's not knowing how to play your guitar that counts - it's knowing every fucking thing about them from what gauge strings Kurt Cobain used to what pedal was used on the third chord of the second song on some shite album or other. All talk, expensive instruments and crap music.*


*Most of this rant is based on various nights spent talking to dickheads in Eamon Dorans - I get what I deserve...

 

[Juno]

Originally posted by Latex lizzie
..a place for everything and everything in it's place.There is no better or worse.Just different.

Hippy!

 

[Speed Racer]

Originally posted by Latex lizzie
..a place for everything and everything in it's place.There is no better or worse.Just different.

....but would you like to watch a load of noise on TV or a well made scene of a film, with dandy imaginative cinematography?

 

[the pope]

Originally posted by Juno
Hippy!

well basil, i've always been a big fan of your brush.

boom boom!

 

[Juno]

Originally posted by the pope
well basil, i've always been a big fan of your brush.

boom boom!

You know, you and snakybus should start your own comedy night. Such comic talent going to waste...

 

[Latex lizzie]

Originally posted by Speed Racer
....but would you like to watch a load of noise on TV or a well made scene of a film, with dandy imaginative cinematography?

..thats not the way I look at it. Some people call certain music noise, others call it music..when does it become one or the other..what's the criteria how many chord changes and augmented fifths do you have to have? do you see the point? my old lad thinks all techno music is "noise" and he can see no logic to it at all..I'm sure lots of people his age think the same way..does that mean its not "music".no. q.e.d.

 

[Alex]

Talking about live performance/execution...

After a few thousends hours rehearsal, we don't really make any BIG mistakes and when this happens it doesn't bother me that much.... that's kind of part of the show in the end, any musician (even pro) hits some wrong notes sometimes.

What really makes me Woody Allen is the GROOVE... It's SO VERY hard to be groovy in a consistent way. I think it's more about mood and vibes than technic: sometimes you play a song and it really makes you bang your head, some other times it just... doesn't.... even if the execution is totally "correct"

Apparently it's something you can't really control and this drives me nuts because everytime we're about to perform live I can't know if that "X Factor" will be there or not... and this makes the difference between a nice song and a killer tune

Any ideas/comments/suggestions?