Space is the Place (7 Viewers)

what spacex (say they) are going for isn't speed, it's frequency. It'll take months for a ship to get to Mars, but (they claim) they're aiming to be launching multiple ships *a day*, albeit not all going to Mars - most will be carrying fuel to orbit for transfer to the ships that are going to the moon/mars.
Sounds pretty sustainable
 

I never really gave a shit about the Challenger disaster as I've said before on Thumped.
Anyway I read this about 6 weeks back.

The teacher on board was treated as a big deal for reasons I didn't know about.
Christa McAuliffe won a competition among teachers to become an astronaut. The runner up in the Teacher In Space comp. was on stand by as her understudy. She later went into space herself.
A load of stuff is named after McAuliffe. The Teacher in Space competition was highly publicised. Its aim was to get more people interested in NASA.

It was remarkably cold the morning of the shuttle launch and the wiki contains photos of icicles on the launch tower. Some engineers warned against the launch. it was the coldest ever shuttle launch conditions.
Once the launch proceeded the seven astronauts were doomed.

The issue was rubber seals damaged by the cold on the right booster rocket.
When the booster rockets engaged the rocket suffered a catastrophe and the shuttle broke apart.

I thought the people were killed instantly. Several of them survived the shuttle breaking apart.

So knowing all this nearly 40 years later, do I feel differently? Yes.
It is shocking that the astronauts were failed so badly by the launch managers. The shuttle launch should have been aborted. The article has various ideas as to why it proceeded - one concerning a speech Reagan was to make a few days later. Also there were investigations into launch engineers group decision making that day and future recommondations made.
 
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Didn't know about that record!

What annoyed me about the Challenger disaster was it was given an absurd amount of news coverage. Ridiculously beyond what seven deaths would ever get.
I still think wasting resources on NASA is a symbol of the earth careening towards extinction.

Never really liked The Feederz. Is the Gilman gig the one where they threw the dead dog into the crowd?
Some of there other situationist pranks were good. One I heard was Frank Discussion was working approving credit card applications. He would approve people deemed unsuitable and turn down people he didn't like e.g. priests.
 
I think he's supposed to have glued live crickets to his head and wore a dead dog round his neck.

I love those first few records.

When I was working in hmv,I wasn't getting on with the manager. He'd pulled a few shitty moves talking credit for shit he didn't deserve.


I had just come back from my lunch ( I'd dashed off to a record fair) and everyone was outside because of a bomb scare. He was trying to be friendly with everyone and asked what I'd bought. I first just passed it off saying he wouldn't know it. He insisted. So in front of the whole staff I take out a copy of the first Feederz lp " ever feel like killing your boss?"
 
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When I was working in hmv,I wasn't getting on with the manager. He'd pulled a few shitty moves talking credit for shit he didn't deserve.


I had just come back from my lunch ( I'd dashed off to a record fair) and everyone was outside because of a bomb scare. He was trying to be friendly with everyone and asked what I'd bought. I first just passed it off saying he wouldn't know it. He insisted. So in front of the whole staff I take out a copy of the first Feederz lp " ever feel like killing your boss?"
AWESOME. By all accounts Frank woulda luved that.

Why was there a bomb scare? Was that in Dublin?
 

I never really gave a shit about the Challenger disaster as I've said before on Thumped.
Anyway I read this about 6 weeks back.

The teacher on board was treated as a big deal for reasons I didn't know about.
Christa McAuliffe won a competition among teachers to become an astronaut. The runner up in the Teacher In Space comp. was on stand by as her understudy. She later went into space herself.
A load of stuff is named after McAuliffe. The Teacher in Space competition was highly publicised. Its aim was to get more people interested in NASA.

It was remarkably cold the morning of the shuttle launch and the wiki contains photos of icicles on the launch tower. Some engineers warned against the launch. it was the coldest ever shuttle launch conditions.
Once the launch proceeded the seven astronauts were doomed.

The issue was rubber seals damaged by the cold on the right booster rocket.
When the booster rockets engaged the rocket suffered a catastrophe and the shuttle broke apart.

I thought the people were killed instantly. Several of them survived the shuttle breaking apart.

So knowing all this nearly 40 years later, do I feel differently? Yes.
It is shocking that the astronauts were failed so badly by the launch managers. The shuttle launch should have been aborted. The article has various ideas as to why it proceeded - one concerning a speech Reagan was to make a few days later. Also there were investigations into launch engineers group decision making that day and future recommondations made.
This podcast episode is a good recounting of the 'teachers in space' thing and the fallout from the Challenger disaster:
 
This podcast episode is a good recounting of the 'teachers in space' thing and the fallout from the Challenger disaster:
Yeah three teachers who made it to short list of 10 are featured. Two women and a man. The story is told by people heavily emotionally involved.

For some reason they say McAuliffe as if there are two C's in it e.g. McCauliffe.

The first half is some background (personal motivations, the project being a really heavily publicised Reagan era idea) and selection + training the 10 candidates.
Not essential listening until they say
a student died in an accident while training the ten.

They way the ten were told who was selected was completely thoughtless with no emotional awareness.

The mission commander told the ten straight out on meeting them they better realise their lives would be in serious danger.
They wanted to go so badly that trio interviewed said they would have volunteered almost no matter what.

The lack of wisdom of getting schools and the media so involved in something with so much danger seems bizarre now.

Reactions to witnessing the disaster live at Kennedy Space Center....
 
Theyre going for another launch & maybe a catch tonight.

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