Religion and schools (1 Viewer)

[Anthony]

Dude, you'll be banging your head against a brick wall standing up to Anthony's patented I'm-right-and-your-wrong attitude.

I just borrowed it from you, you can have it back.

Me, I have my fingers crossed that when my kid comes to school going age that the country will have progressed somewhat.

Crossing your fingers isn't going to be enough. Is the boy's name down anywhere yet? I suggest you get on that, Mark too.

I'm talking mainly about secondry school here. At least there are Educate Together primary schools. I know they are very oversubscribed but sign up anyway. If these schools can prove that there is huge demand it helps and can help in ET's efforts and even their effort to start Secondry schools. It would even help to get Educate Together reps on VEC schools' boards.

 

[Goodbye]

The boy's name was down for the local ET before he was even born.

If a 2nd level one existed, his name would be down there also.

 

[Goodbye]

Yeah, right! Sorry Ian ... I mean your optimism is truly inspiring .....

I'm optimistic that the country will progress yes.

 

[Goodbye]

I just borrowed it from you, you can have it back.
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Nah, yer grand, you can keep it, suits you more betterer

 

[egg_]

I don't have children but if I did I would feel very uncomfortable with them having to attend a Catholic school and sit out all the religious instruction. You could argue that having to sit it out is very damaging for the child as they feel isolated from playground friends, especially in times of communion and confirmation.

If this is the biggest issue your kid has to deal with in school you're doing very well - at the minute, for instance, Isabelle is intimidated by the bigger kids' (she's probably the smallest in the school) rough play in the schoolyard and it's getting in the way of her playing at lunchtime and really making friends. That's a much bigger issue for her than whether she does her gruffalo workbook while the other kids are doing their Alive-o one

On the communion thing, incidentally - Niamh was talking to Isabelle's teacher on Friday and she said that when they had a girl of atheist parents before the kid got involved in the communion preparations as a helper rather than a participant, and on the day went along to the church in her white dress and was involved without actually going up to the altar rails. I thought that was a pretty good approach

 

[dudley]

We've our wee one already applied for plenty of ET schools. I'm absolutely against the idea of getting her christened, but I definitely wouldn't chastise parents who do to get their kids into a school, especially if you live in an area where even the religious schools are hugely over subscribed. You do what you have to do to look after your childs welfare, which is way more important than your personal principals, no?

 

[maims bond]

Well it seems that there is a majority supporting the removal of the church from state-funded schooling:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2010/0125/1224263037668.html

 

[Anthony]

, especially if you live in an area where even the religious schools are hugely over subscribed.

I suppose if it's the absolute LAST option. But then every child had the right to an education and it SHOULD NOT come to that.

 

[Anthony]

FROM THE TIMES ARTICLE: voters in Dublin most strongly against continuing church control and voters in the rest of Leinster most supportive.

That's fucking Meath for you.

 

[mark]

our lad is 19 days old and we have sent pre-enrollment forms to 2 ET schools that are relativily near us. but having seen how stressful its been for friends (hugh in particular) to get their kids into this type of schools, i'm pretty worried about whats going to happen.

 

[Unicron]

Home schooling all the way folks. That way you can teach them about Jesus the way that you want.

 

[MDR]

We were told by our local schools that you can't apply until the January before the September your kid is supposed to start school - I think there's also some issue around immigrants who are being blocked from schools that have four year waiting lists because they have only just arrived in the country.

Thomas was baptised because my wife is a believer and may well go to a catholic school, although my preference is for an Educate Together.

 

[Froog]

seems to me like only the parents give a shit about this, kids don't really care one way or t'other. and being taught catholicism isn't gonna ruin a kids life either. maybe i'm just being controversial for the sake of it tho.

 

[billygannon]

Well, my daughter will be taught about the glory of the Empire.

 

[Anthony]

Thomas was baptised because my wife is a believer and may well go to a catholic school, although my preference is for an Educate Together.

Loads of Baptised kids in our local ET school. The multi-d part of these schools is just a tiny part of what makes them great. (I'm sure you knew that already).

 

[maims bond]

seems to me like only the parents give a shit about this, kids don't really care one way or t'other. and being taught catholicism isn't gonna ruin a kids life either. maybe i'm just being controversial for the sake of it tho.

Surely it's the parent's job to give a shit?

 

[GARYXKNIFEDX]

kids don't really care one way or t'other. and being taught catholicism isn't gonna ruin a kids life either. maybe i'm just being controversial for the sake of it tho.

I would say a lot of people would say different

 

[Froog]

what i'm saying is kids dont care whether they're atheist, catholic, whatever until later in life when they'll give it some thought so why do parents make such an issue of it?

 

[egg_]

Froog, think about what you're saying man. Kids don't care about anything except for sweets and tv

 

[Froog]

Froog, think about what you're saying man. Kids don't care about anything except for sweets and tv

pretty much ya... i'd say religon is waaaay down on their "to think about" list.