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Well I don't feel qualified to talk about trans issues so i'm not going to but if you think the author of this article writes in bad faith based on previous writings i'll take that viewpoint on board when reading stuff by them and thank you.

For what it's worth I don't see a good counter argument to the one made in the article posted in that specific thread. I see a denial of a thing that other people are saying is definitely happening (see the responses to the authors cancellation tweet), and a declaration that the writer of the article knows nothing. I certainly don't know which of these arguments is more true in this case but i've followed enough YA stuff over the years to see some truth in the article as written. Ultimately one has to respect the author's decision to cancel her book though.

Also i'm almost definitely in this for the gossip and likely wouldn't have heard of her if this hadn't blown up. I find most YA nowadays to be the same quality as the YA "issues books" of the 1980's but usually with some form of wider world building mythology grafted on top and I probably preferred the honesty of the 80's books.
Good points. My mention of his being a known transphobe more relates to this being on brand for him (as a man who has made a career out of speaking loudly on and continually being hired to write about trans issues, for reasons beyond me, and if this article is to believed, for reasons beyond a lot of trans folk) to rush in to a sitaution he knows nothing about and write a scatching article that quotes no-one who does know anything, really. My cynicism sees a man who loves jumping on any opportunity to insert himself into conversations that are actively not about him, nothing to do with him, he has no expertise on, and is usually just entering into to make some un-nuanced argument about why woke-twitter culture is toxic.

I find it hard to credit what he's saying in this case, because when looking into it, it definitely seems more like the real bullying and insanity has come on the back of HIS article, which incensed a bunch of dopes to send death threats to POC women authors. Which, to me, is far more interesting a think piece than acting like the authors he mentions are she-devils for having an opinion on racism in another womans book. Like, valid criticism, whether you agree on it or not, vs death threats because women spoke their minds on their experiences and reading of a book? Madness.

So in short, I'm not actually coming at you or your reading of this at all more just annoyed because I'm sick of this milo-yiannopoulos-joker.
 

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But obviously all twitter culture is toxic and YA is being ruined by people in their 30s like me :p
 

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In unrelated book gossip Niel Gaiman ads for masterclass are being pushed on me by the same organisation that was pushing tom morello guitar masterclass on me. This doesn't reflect positively on anyone.
 

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In unrelated book gossip Niel Gaiman ads for masterclass are being pushed on me by the same organisation that was pushing tom morello guitar masterclass on me. This doesn't reflect positively on anyone.
Kinda thought this was fun

 

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Gonna say now that Margaret Atwood has lost the run of herself and I bet this book will not be good and she's the new JK Rowling when it comes to believing your own hype.
 

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Ah i have no idea, I won't be reading it any time soon. Reports from friends who are fans of her are that her last few books have shown a serious decline in quality.
I’ve only read Handmaid so all I have is hope and a copy of The Blind Assassin that I’ve been meaning to read forever.
 

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Where do you all go for book news, reviews, articles, podcasts etc. Plz no New York Times, thanks.
 

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Honest answer: nowhere and everywhere. One podcast or author interview leads to 5 other names coming up which leads to 5 other sources, which leads to 5 more names, and so on into infinity.
 

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I don’t do podcasts as I’m never in a position to listen to them. I read when computing and I’m reading/writing in work so stick with music. At home it’s records all the way.

For book stuff, I’m in a couple of book groups (Folk Horror Revival is good but niche) and follow publishers I like on twitter. And this thread is good too.

I went to a ghost story conference in Dublin in July last year and that gave me a reading list that I’ll working through for quite some time and I’m trying to work through all the books I bought at it still. I’ve decided that 2019 is the year of the “To Read” pile.
 

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